duchess

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[–] duchess@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Germany‘s neo fascists use support for Israel as a fig leaf, „look we are no Nazis, we support the Jews this time!“. Same reason why Weidel dug up that ultra stupid theory that Hitler was actually a lefty socialist. Conveniently, said support also hurts people they actually really hate. A crooked sense of historical responsibility was the perfect circumstance.

I‘m otherwise happy to read up on those ideological foundations you mentioned that Germany couldn’t get rid of in post colonial Europe.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thanks for the lesson, but to be clear: I'm not oblivious to positive racism and don't support the authorities' actions from the news article. I just think it's a combination of multiple factors why support for Israel is as high as in Germany, and I think none of those is an instrinsically hightened disposition for racism.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No, I’m saying there are parts of Europe that are just as casually racist as East German hinterlands. I wouldn’t equate the government’s stance on the war to the general sentiments in the public. I think it’s just not that high of a priority for most people, kinda understandable considering all the shit that‘s going on, nationally and internationally. The October 7th attack was the first time for years that this war got extensive media coverage.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

The "making of amends", the historical processing of what the hell happened with honest effort, didn't happen in the 50's, it started in the 70's during and after the student protests. The processing of these crimes is an almost impossible task, its execution was and is far from perfect, its intended lessons apparantly start to wane, but I'll not slam the efforts done by so many people.

I also wonder if you ever visited Eastern Europe if you think the vast majority of countries in Europe have overcome "the ideological foundations of Racism".

edit: And btw. German Sinti and Roma, descendents of the victims you refer to, don't want to be referred to as "Gypsies".

[–] duchess@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Well the Holocaust really fucked up any hope for the entity that followed Nazi Germany to have a reasonable relationship with an entity that claims to be a Jewish state. Nevertheless there are alt right movements in almost all Euro nations that need to be dealt with.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Jews are a classic example of an ethnoreligious group, being Jewish is not solely a question of religion. E.g. many Jews in the US identify as Jewish, but do not believe in Judaism. And religious hardliners in Israel have a very clear image of what kind of people can be real Jews.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (10 children)

That's true for all of Europe. But first, we'll need to get our shit together and fend off agitprop from Russia, China, and, in the future, the US.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I haven't been clear. Yes, deportations are wrong (even though my heart really wants fascists out of the country), and yes, it's alarming that at least half of the victims are trans/queer.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

I don't understand, the rapture of the Jewish people by establishing a Zionist ethno state? I think it's much simpler: The original fascists were antisemites because Jews were the scapegoat that could mobilise the masses due to a hatred for Jews that has been cultivated for centuries in Europe, it was en vogue. The fascist(oid) populists today use Arabs/Muslims (not that the average AfD supporter knows the difference) and therefore show public support with a regime that already shows little mercy for those. And yeah, true neo nazis, islamists and whoever else hate Jews will show up for the protests, and if there really need to be deportations, they should be first.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago (25 children)

I'm not supporting illegal deportation, but I'm also not supporting true "I really just hate jews because they are jews"-antisemites that unfortunately feel right at home in valid protests against Israel's actions.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (46 children)

If they really want to deport foreigners they should start with the old-fashioned antisemites that mingle in those protests.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Basically anything you’d buy off say Amazon from a 5 letter company.

so nothing

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