danielton1

All five times are listed here.

None of that other stuff matters if they're this incompetent at something as basic as SSL certificates. It's not dogma. It's not nitpicking. This is Security 101. I can't recommend a distro that fails this badly at a basic security task to newcomers.

I'm sorry, but the fact that they failed to renew their SSL certificates and told their users to change their system clocks as a workaround, not once, not twice, but FIVE times so far... well, that's not petty. That's security 101. That tells me they can't be trusted to provide a secure operating system.

The rest of your points, I mostly agree with you on. I really wanted to like Manjaro when I tried it a few years ago. I would love to see more newbie-friendly distros that aren't based on Ubuntu and GNOME. But I can't recommend a distro that can't even manage to do SSL renewals right.

You keep ignoring every single example I've given you by saying it doesn't matter because Apple.

Wrong.

They're ALL doing ALL of it. Microsoft's Surface laptops and tablets are even less repairable than iPads and MacBooks, and Google's devices become paperweights as soon as they get bored (and they WILL get bored... see the size of the Google Graveyard).

Arguing over which one is the worst offender ignores the bigger picture and will lead to things continuing to get worse.

I said that Microsoft and Google are guilty of the same stuff as Apple. You said they don't. So I provided examples.

Apple is the only one that gets the blame on the Internet, especially here in the Fediverse, but they're all guilty.

Microsoft's own Surface devices are among the least repairable on the planet. And Google has a browser and search monopoly, and almost all of their hardware is disposable once they get bored with it.

Good ol' inertia! Most people think anything but the familiar is too hard.

So Microsoft and Google do the same stuff as Apple, but for some reason Apple's the only one guilty of planned obsolescence?

BTW I mentioned phones because you said "devices"

That's fair. I've noticed that Wine's support of non-game software can be hit or miss depending on what it is.

I'd say your case is more necessity than willingness.

That sounds more like forced than willing to me.

Great, but most people aren't going to show up to the polls if they're not convinced that either candidate is any good.

The purpose of a presidential campaign is to convince the people that this candidate is a good choice. The Harris campaign failed to do that for the majority of Americans. If the left keeps gaslighting themselves into thinking she ran this flawless campaign, like you are, they are unlikely to win in the future.

Losing seems like a pretty big flaw to me, especially considering how many people didn't even show up.