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Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I deleted the Admin password, I see the User password still says "Installed", yea it seems like if I reboot, I'll get locked out, because I wouldn't have an Admin pin to override the Boot Password screen. So yea... nope, not testing it, I quicklt re-added the Admin password back in and now have that Admin password saved in my password manager just in case I forget this one too.

Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Um... I mean I'm not sure if the takeaway from this thread is "Asus Bad", but its more like "Who the fuck designed this shit" shitty design BS.

I mean, I still have a usable laptop, just have an annoying setting I can't seem to ever turn off from the rest of this laptop's lifespan.

Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I downloaded the BIOS on a USB drive, I went into the BIOS menu and updated it. The version number is now different, but the passwords remain. 🤷‍♂️

Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I searched the entire PDF for "CMOS" and cant find anything. I read a few reddit threads saying modern laptops don't store CMOS settings in volitile memory anymore, so its harder to bypass.

Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Resetting settings doesn't seem to affect passwords, I tried it.

Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Couldn't find such option. I find a "load default settings" thing, but the passwords are unaffected by that. I tried updating the BIOS but the passwords are still intact.

I wonder if there's a tool that can reset the BIOS from the OS.

Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. in c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
[–] cantthinkofausername@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Again, the problem is, I forgot the User password. I didn't try too hard commiting that to memory because I just assumed (like with previous laptops) that I can reset it if I forget.

I can get to the BIOS Menu but it has 3 lines, one asks for "Current Password" and then the other two is "new password" and "confirm new password". It doesn't recognize the admin password as a valid password, but it does recognize it if I try to change the admin passwors instead. I tried removing the Admin password, and did it, but the User password is still in place, so I just quickly re-added the admin password back in so I don't lock myself out when I reboot.

Not sure if this is a "modern laptop" thing, or if its only Asus that does that. I had HP and Dell before, and they just let you reset the user password with he admin one.

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Apparantly, you can no longer reset the "User" BIOS Password with the "Admin" BIOS Password? Why??? I literally am the Admin lol. (sh.itjust.works)
 

So some time ago I set up a BIOS "User" password and and "Admin" password on a laptop.

For those who doesn't know. A BIOS "User" password is prompted every time you boot a computer using that motherboard, and the "Admin" password is prompted when you attempt to enter the BIOS settings

If you have both set up, either password is accepted on boot, but only the "Admin" password is accepted for getting into the BIOS Settings.

I've just had both of these set up because I'm weird and paranoid (before you say "encryption", yes the disk is also encrypted), and I got into a habit of just using the Admin password for boot.

But now I think its unnecessary and annoying now and doesn't seem to do much since the disk is also encrypted, so I tried to remove the "User" password in the BIOS settings, but I forgot the User password. Inputing the Admin password is rejected as "incorrect password", but its accepted when you try to change to Admin password. Wtf lol. The Laptops I had before this one, allows the Admin to reset the User Password, wtf is this new change? Admin cannot reset User Password? Make zero sense lol. So I guess I'm just stuck with this unchangeable setting? Triggers my OCD so much that there's a setting now I can't toggle on/off.

I mean it's still perfectly usable as long as I keep the Admin password enabled and not mess with that, so this is the definition of mildly infuriating, just very samll annoyance I'm stuck with.

It's an Asus Zenbook btw if you're wondering.