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it's the system we have and we should use it

That was Thomas Jefferson's justification for the continuation of slavery.

Regulation and heavy taxes

This assumes a world where regulatory capture is not the default state of things.

the government can't seize citizens personal property for no reason and without compensation.

That "no reason" is extremely vague and allows it to be one of the primary underlying argument against taxes and regulations.

Disagree with personal property shouldnt exist, but agree that businesses need to have their power and ownership regulated heavily

But without also limiting the power and ownership of individuals we loop right back to feudalism and the exact issues these systems were designed to solve.

What is your understanding of what "personal property" is like under some idealistic, utopian communism?

regulate harshly and with a 50s style tax

Isn't this argument 'free-market but with guardrails' or did I misunderstand?

What do you mean by "personal property"? That monopolistic land ownership is okay so long as it's individuals not businesses?

Daily reminder that's how deportations have worked in the USA for over a decade.

Liberals cannot actively support it without also confronting the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology.

Thank you, I couldn't have asked for a better demonstration of this point. A healthcare system that is based on the free market but that is "regulat[ed] harshly and [with] a 50s style tax on the rich" is not universal healthcare!

If you can see the issues with healthcare and can understand why universal healthcare would be a necesarry improvement then how are you still advocating for a free market solution for anything?

That baby died a long time ago, and required required constant human rights violations to keep it alive in the first place. Getting rid of the bathwater won't bring it back or make it require less cruelty to keep alive.

Universal health care is antithetical to both market economies and economic freedom which are both core liberal principles. Liberals cannot actively support it without also confronting the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology.

Unless you're using the term "liberal" in the US sense of 'anybody "left" of fascism' in which case you're statistically correct, but mostly due to generalization.

What do you think Gitmo(GTMO) and other military black sites are for?

I don't believe blacks and minorities were ever kidnapped and trafficked to foreign death camps

Historically domestic death camps have been good enough. A prison where people are serving life sentences is a death camp, just a very slow, inefficient one.

Those sent were charged with a crime, but not convincted. The laziness to not even coerce a plea deal as is tradition is the only real deviation from the "status quo".

I do appreciate that the fascist morons are too stupid to realize that the "inefficiencies" they saw were design features not flaws. Allowing for the whole charade to be exposed without having to argue against each individual part of the kafkaesque machine.

In less than a month, the nazi party have already disappeared 1/3 the total number sent to Gitmo the last 23 years.

Can you provide some more specifics+sources on those numbers so I can also reference them later with more specifics?

Remember_the_tooth is spot on, but also glosses over the 20-21st century transition and the litany of bullshit that led to the modern police state. Jim Crow Joe and the 90s crime bill, Bush Jr.'s coup via Bush V Gore and the subsequent formation of DHS, expansion of black sites via the Iraq war, etc.