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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (32 children)

Neither of those links are remotely relevant to how higher education correlates with union membership. Trolling.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (27 children)

provided sources

Show me a single comment providing me with a single source. Not one has been provided, and I even double-checked on .world in case there was one I wasn't federated with. You are a liar and a troll.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (34 children)

No most higher education jobs aren’t union.

Literally not what I said at all. I said that you are more likely to be in a union if you have more education. Do you bother looking anything up before trying to incorrectly correct others?

At this point it's extremely obvious that you're just trolling.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (17 children)

Literally what have I said anywhere that suggests I'm in any way, "baffled?" I'm just pointing out how fucked up it is to others who don't understand, such as the person I replied to.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I'll ask again, since you comletely ignored the question: so their contracts never expire and never get renegotiated?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (10 children)

My contract states that we make $0.50/hr above union wages

You may be right, but it certainly sounds like she's claiming it's contractual, explicit, and general policy.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (29 children)

Which facts are you talking about, exactly?

You yourself said:

That competition might be specifically devised to draw potential employees away from union contracts and people may be dumb enough to go for it

So you agree with me, lots of people in this thread disagree with me 1 2 3, but you're attacking me because??? I'm on .ml???

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

No, they have not, "accepted it and moved on to the next topic" they are disputing the claim. That's the opposite of accepting it. You can't read, or you're just saying complete nonsense to troll.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Are reading the same replies?

sure, but whether or not they know it they have caved to the union’s demands by doing that

You think this demonstrates that "everyone knows it's fucked up?" Because it sounds a lot to me like they're saying it isn't fucked up at all, and is in fact, "caving to the union's demands."

I wish that when my critics attacked me from completely opposite angles, they spent half as much time criticizing each other for having 100% opposite positions on why I'm supposedly wrong.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

I'm well aware of that. As I said, "Ofc with at-will employment they can always just fire you, but like, if you think about it it’s pretty fucked up right?"

There are so many replies that don't get it. 1 2 3. You're explaining to me how it's "obviously" fucked up (which I already acknowledged), but most of the replies are telling me that it isn't fucked up at all - maybe you should try responding to those people instead of to me.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Your union agreements last until the end of time and never get renegotiated?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (36 children)

Aren't people with college educations more likely to end up in a union? One of the reasons some places don't want to hire "overqualified" people is because they're afraid of unionization.

There's a variety of reasons for the decline of unions in the US, the main ones being:

  • Anti-union laws and propaganda (Mike Rowe being a big one)

  • Offshoring of manufacturing jobs

  • Major unions defanging themselves by purging radicals/communists to prove they're "one of the good ones"

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