Credibly_Human

They are fine with this trade

This is pure pseudo intellectualism because you literally have no argument or point.

You have no reasoning and are projecting that onto me because you can't explain this opinion your feelings have brought you to.

This bothsiderism is pretty thoughtless.

It is true that both contribute to a surveillance state but to equate both is to just ignore all policy differences, actions and more to pretend to be nuanced while painting everything as the same shade of grey, which is a downgrade to even black and white thinking.

They're pretty incompetent, but also, it does present significant deterrence to ICE especially if people aren't charged for legal self defence.

I still think this is mostly about defending yourself from emboldened neighbors though.

What I was meaning to say is that people who are working class think that they are middle class because they aren't destitute, yet they have no significant assets, and could not survive an extreme financial event.

I just feel that politicians use middle class as a weapon where when they talk about policies benefitting the middle class they often benefit people far richer than the median but people think they mean them.

I like the part where you have no details or arguments, just vibes.

We're clearly at a unproductive point in this conversation where you are slinging accusations and we clearly are at an impasse. I think your position ignores the valid perspective of others, you think it outweighs every other position even from people who try to do better just as you claim to.

That seems to be it. I can't convince you, and you certainly haven't convinced me.

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I certainly include them in my definition.

I don't think this is wise at all.

Its just people putting into words their wish to be able to punish and appoint blame above their wishes to be pragmatic.

If software is better at something, there is no reason to be mad at that software.

More than that, the idea that the software vendor could not be held liable is farcical. Of course they could be, or the company running said software. In fact, they'd probably get more shit than managers who regularly get away with ridiculous shit.

I mean wage theft is the biggest form of theft for a reason, and none of the wage thieves are machines (or at least most aren't).

know the kind of people you’re actually talking about. There is still value in electing the lesser evil, and pushing to get better and more progressive Dems in office (that are usually better at pushing back against fascism anyways)

This is exactly my point. The democrats have huge AIPAC backing and support some awful things, but they are fucking saints compared to the only other options in this political system.

They are the only potential vehicles for long term change and stability exactly the way you described.

Progressive candidates have to be winning primaries despite swimming upstream, and democrats have to continue winning federally despite the bad taste (chemo) they put in your mouth.

Yet you posted the initial useless comment that does the same thing.

Every opinion to convince other people is that.

There was no substance in this reply. You haven't shown knowledge of anything, and havent addressed any criticisms levied.