BussyGyatt

It's giving chatgpt.

I don't think what you describe is meaningful action either.

Do I understand that you agree the proposed "blackout" is symbolic, and that you wish there were something more meaningful being proposed; or are you defending the blackout as meaningful itself? Do you agree with the criticism of the blackout's being symbolic, but want to go along with it despite its lack of meaning (or perhaps better stated, lack of effect)?

For my part, I'd be much more pleased with the idea of the blackout if I could be convinced that it would have useful results, and would generally be in favor of so-called "meaningful action." This blackout wouldn't effect me either way since I've already given up amazon and google stuff almost entirely except what I need for work. I just need to know what the meaningful next step would be.

It sounds like a call to avoid symbolic action and take meaningful action instead, to me.

He's out of line, but he's right.

I'm gonna leave it here for tonight, SMCF. It's been nice chatting.

Do you mean violent statements are not true statements? If a person says, "I'm gonna break your legs because you didn't pay me," is that statement untrue because it is violent? Or perhaps do you mean that violence and truth are independent of one another, that violence is a quality of actions and truth is a quality of statements, that they are not inclusive of each other in that way? Or should I take the surface-level interpretation and say that truth is not compatible with violence- that being violent negates truth in some way and being truthful prevents violence?

Does the truth matter to you? It matters to me.

That's not.

That's a fair point.

Maybe there's a miscommunication here, and my answer just now was a bit snarky so I apologize for that. I expected "Correlation does not imply causation" to be a reminder of common knowledge, an assumption that was apparently unfair for several people in the thread. You linked to a study, "Investigating the Link Between Gun Possession and Gun Assault." I responded to that study with the- well, I suppose it was an essay. I used my response to justify the position that statistical correlation does not imply causal relationship, which I quoted the study as saying they couldn't determine "reverse causality-" they couldn't determine whether carrying a gun makes people get shot more, or whether people who are more likely to get shot are also more likely to carry a gun.

Does that answer your question?

You were supposed to get it in response to a much, much larger study which I bothered to actually read.