Apparently this was a real strategy on twitter for the 2024 election: videos of hot women followed by trump messages aimed at young men...and it seems to have worked to at least get them off the couch...just be aware of it ffs (fucking monkey brains)
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Huh. I wonder who would want Poland out of the EU and why.
usa and russia
echoes of Brexit...
That too was a Russian psyop. If we don't fight this shit, Poland will fall for it, they are ripe for this type of demagoguery.
predictible horny rightwing is predictable
Let he amongst us who is immune to attractive women cast the first ballot
magnificent but flamboyant stampede of gay men ensues
The EU needs to finally take this threat seriously and respond with even more attractive Ai women.
this is the way: NCD waifus demonstrate it.
But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard
This shows how big the potential of the EU is. The USA cannot allow a strong EU to emerge.
They used to have a specific strategy for accomplishing this:
The USA provided military security for Europe so that Europe would not have any need to spend money for military. The USA's goal was to minimize EU countries' military spending so that USA would remain an uncontested military hegemon. That gives it a lot of influence that can be translated into actual cash.
At the same time, EU countries saved several percents of their GDP and could use it for the good of their own populations. It was a win-win situation.
But then the Russia organized this movement called "MAGA", and that movement successfully cancelled the arrangement. (Funnily enough, the abbreviation "maga" comes from "make America great again", which would suggest strategies for increasing USA's influence, not diminishing it. But what do I know.)
That is because the MAGA/P2025/neofascist plan is not to maintain hegemony against near-peers (which is expensive on the citizen), it is to return to the mythologized post-war boom by letting the rest of the world go to shit again and then to swoop in to "save" everyone (again) while selling them weapons and industrial stuff (but not to let them reindustrialize again, like during the cold war).
What is preverse is that it was the reindustrialization and social state of Japan, Germany/EU that was the poster child that helped keep these blocks from turning fully socialist and win hearts and minds abroad during the cold war. I guess that was too successful and is making russia/US look bad.
PS: btw, this "strategy" is risky, because there is no way to guarantee that WW3 won't reach US soil this time, you can't just sit it out.
At the same time, EU countries saved several percents of their GDP and could use it for the good of their own populations.
They saved it in US government bonds which gave the US the money to finance the weapons.
But then the Russia organized this movement called βMAGAβ, and that movement successfully cancelled the arrangement.
Which could make one wonder if the US politicians are that stupid. There would be one reasonable reason to end the arrangement: if there is another war to be fought.
China is the bigger threat to US hegemony and the way things are, we will fight with the US against China and Russia. All the drama exists to prevent the population from objecting to a war that inevitably will become nuclear.
Which could make one wonder if the US politicians are that stupid.
Not stupid; cowardly. Nobody dares to challenge the herd.
There is a much more obvious country that has a vested interest in dividing western democracies, and weakening organizations that unite them, such as NATO and the EU, a country that's currently in a proxy and hybrid war with Europe, and a country that has long understood the importance of information warfare: Russia.
Of course with the Trump administration, you never know, but then you could also ask yourself: if Trump was a Russian agent, how different would his actions be? Not very different I think.
I think the appropriate response to this is to make AI videos of beatiful russian women telling russians to revolt against Putin
Besides of the "This is the weapon of the enemy" frame from The Dark Knight Returns, let me remind you who runs and trains these AI models. They want the EU gone. At best, you'll be shoveling money into it, at worst, your IP will be terminated for "spam".
They thought pushing UK out of the EU would break it And we grew stronger than ever.
Poland's exit isn't the breaking of the EU. It's proving a plan of attack that will break it.
Slowly chipping away at the edges. Attacking country by country with misinformation until every country is isolated again, ruled by whatever oligarch decides to set up shop there.
The point of a union is the united effort. If you start thinking in terms of what parts you can cut out without issue or to "grow stronger" then you might as well stop the charade and pick who's running the new empire.
I don't know if I should be happy or sad that this doesn't seem to be a thing yet.
Says a lot about the level of intelligence of rightwing nationalists.
Do right-wing nationalists even listen to a female opinion?
No they don't. But young men aged 15-25 will watch propaganda if there's an attractive woman in the video.
Only if those women are repeating their talking points.
And only if young and attractive
It is low, but no country votes based on intelligence.
And much like the UK version it will be led by a grotty old white man with bad teeth and a pocket full of roubles.
People need to stop watching slop. But I feel like the kind of idiots easily swayed by slop are also the kinds that won't stop watching it.
Would these even have been born before Poland joined EU?
Maybe, Poland joined the EU in 2004.
But for this case, it doesn't really matter. Mix some vague ideals of freedom and more polish and you're good to go.
At least they arw the voters that have to live with the consequences of it. Not like the brexit voters that half of them are already dead.
Bigger question isβ¦ is it effective? Thatβs the worrysome part. It worked (not videos, but literally fake news) for the UK. The hybrid war on Europe has reached new heights. Any Poles that want to chip in?
Also what do we do as counter measure? Generate videos to promote EU and then throw that out there? How do we deal with that?
Spend billions of dollars on public education, with a focus on critical analysis, starting 50 years ago.
Failing that, I don't know, get rid of the ultra wealthy?
I don't know how I feel about ai slop that promotes good ideas. That sounds like a deal with the devil. But if there is going to be slop, I'd rather it be promoting stuff like "workers together are stronger"
Work on reducing the frustrations of the target demographic of this propaganda. For example, the housing crisis. Or the rich getting richer while stealing the future of the young.
The problem is a lot of these things take many many years to make better.
A lot of actions were taking here years ago and were starting to see rents come down, but it isn't a fast thing.
Then with people having the memory of a goldfish, the people trying to at least partially fix things don't get the outcome fast enough because it's slow, and the right wing fascists come in and say see, it didn't work, and tear it all down. Then due to the delay in everything the previous governments actions start to show some benefit and the fascists say, see we did it, until things turn to shit and the people wanting to fix things take over again.
And the cycle never fucking ends.
Kill Billionaires.
Straight up porn, and when everyone arrives they start yelling about how awesome the EU is.
You donβt fight fire with fire. Disinformation can only be fought with exposure and transparency. Is it βthe dreamβ to be in the EU? No. But it damn well has its benefits. And neither Russia, nor USA have any interest for a strong, independent Europe.
A campaign that fights the bulshit being spread around, with actual facts and sources - that, unfortunately, is boring. So, maybe, real OF models need to volunteer to deliver facts while wearing skimpy clothing? I donβt know. βPaid forβ messages can and will come across as insincere.
Someone should just flip it on them and make videos of a bunch of hairy knuckle dragging slobs also talking about why itβs great.
Won't get the engagement you need to reach millions of potential voters. Sex to lure them, fear to persuade them. Have a pretty girl for the initial click, then talk about the threat of [evil] and how only [good] can save us. Flash some scary images. Doesn't matter what idea you're trying to sell, this always works.
Attractive is subject to perspective, for example I don't find any of them even a tinsy bit attractive.
Fucking Russia is doing this shit again. We need to take them out, permanently, at any cost.
absolutely right. this is war.
The fucking Russians continue to play games in Poland.
Due to tight controls over the media in authoritarian regimes like China or Russia, they aren't as vulnerable to this vector of foreign propaganda. But they sure as hell make a tonne of this kind of thing and ship it overseas. How can this asymmetry be addressed or mitigated?