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Sanders, a Vermont independent who caucuses with the Democratic party, said on CNN’s State of the Union that he was “fearful of a lot” when it came to AI. And the senator called it “the most consequential technology in the history of humanity” that will “transform” the US and the world in ways that had not been fully discussed.

“If there are no jobs and humans won’t be needed for most things, how do people get an income to feed their families, to get healthcare or to pay the rent?” Sanders said. "There’s not been one serious word of discussion in the Congress about that reality."

Sanders should have been president.

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[–] FisherOfSaints@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Sanders is, as usual, right. We need decades more of him.

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US shifted from agriculture to a manufacturing economy during then industrial revolution. Then as manufacturing moved globally, US shifted to information economy. I think the big question is: what’s next? Because the answer seems to be not much, and aiming to keep the status quo going is going to really harm US economy.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

What's next?

An AI planned economy with hard-coded nobles & privileged roles (the rest are serfs/citizens) ensuring that everyone stays in their designated role forever (nobles get life extension tech, which is illegal for the rest). Serfs in turn have wide freedoms and an easier life, but swift justice when they break the laws (which is known thanks to full surveillance). Novel lifestyle communities may exist, allowing serfs to live different lives (eg. traditional farming communities, the sims in RL, hobby communities, but with safety nets.) Many see it as an improvement over the insecurities and struggles of life beforehand, in turn supporting the nobility and their privileged status.

That is, until the AI wars break out, as competing sets of nobles build bigger and bigger datacenters with their competing AIs (with different sets of hard-coded nobles) and bigger and deadlier drone armies, sending them on missions in enemy territory, destroying anything and anyone who gets in their way.

Eventually, the nobles move to space and turn earth's drone wars into a video game for their kids, who are kept artificially young forever, honing their sociopathy until such time as it is needed.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'd say read The Sovereign Individual. The likes of Musk and Thiel seem to jerk off to this kind of thing.

Then there are the rambling "thoughts" of the likes of Curtis Yarvin...

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'll cross it off my reading list, thanks! :-)

[–] Ach@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

This made me laugh because I'm currently reading the expanse, and I'm worried one day it may be viewed as a prophecy...