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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 126 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Publicly available police reports.

I'm completely against doxxing. But there were public reports. That's censorship.

[–] misk@piefed.social 28 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

That’s also what many other social media would do because it’s easier to ban posting of personal information regardless of where it came from because you can’t trust moderation you outsourced to some third world country to do proper checks.

Example:

Reddit is quite open and pro-free speech, but it is not okay to post someone's personal information or post links to personal information. This includes links to public Facebook pages and screenshots of Facebook pages with the names still legible.

Posting someone's personal information will get you banned. When posting screenshots, be sure to edit out any personally identifiable information to avoid running afoul of this rule.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043066452-Is-posting-someone-s-private-or-personal-information-okay

Dunno if Bsky has something similar but it’s more of a cost optimisation than anything so people are getting pointlessly angry at individual companies rather than the system which has this sort of behaviour as a guaranteed outcome.

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

can always come up with rationalizations but the fact remains there are other platforms that will not "cost optimize" it away.

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

A competent programmer could write an algorithm to knock out the low hanging fruit, like public Facebook pages, in about five minutes.

Might take me a couple hours. Someone genuinely good and familiar with the space would have been done in less time than it took to write this comment.

Can't imagine why they would do that, or why they would want to extend protections they politically must extend to marginalized people who take real precautions to assholes who know they'll always be protected by power.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ill never understand how jack fucking dorsey is regrifting the internet AGAIN with a centralized censorship engine.

fuck this dude entirely

[–] sam@piefed.ca 28 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure he has nothing to do with bluesky. i think he's into nostr now.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 21 points 17 hours ago

He founded Bluesky, but after helping Elon buy Twitter, he left.

[–] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing might be going too far. He left the board since it wasn't good PR for them but Bluesky is not transparent about its ownership and Dorsey could well still have a stake in it.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

They have talked about some parts of it. They got funding from Twitter under his direction and got to keep the funds when Twitter bailed on their side of the contract as Musk bought it (the initial plan was to move Twitter to a new protocol)

It's a public benefit corporation. Jack can't legally do much at all after having left the board

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

that might explain why nostr is filled with rypto bros and racists. nostr world is toxic

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 hours ago

i largely guage the toxicity of platforms by how quickly you encounter a genocide denier. nostr holds the record in that i encountered one on there literally as soon as i finished onboarding. a record that can only be tied, not beaten

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

Crypto bro here and I agree wholeheartedly. Crypto shouldn't be anyone's whole personality. Social networking doesn't need money baked into it - it just needs decentralized moderation, and we can donate out of band. Anyone who wants to improve society somewhat should be on the fediverse right now.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He doesn't own or work at Bluesky

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesky

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He founded it, but he did indeed leave in 2024, i missed that bit of news

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[–] 1uddy@lemmings.world 47 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck bluesky.

Anyone using it over Mastodon to protest twitter is a moron.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Obay but can I use mastodon in a way that let's me choke on corporate dick? Because choking on corporate dick is kind of my favorite thing. Whole reason inhere.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Back to LinkedIn with you!

There's a really fucked up reason why I couldn't make a linked in account if I wanted to.

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[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are no bans on nostr. And we desperately need more antifa to drown out the 3 white supremacists we can't ban

[–] morto@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh my, what's that thing? I tried nostr earlier this year after reading about their tech side and finding it interesting, but then I met their human side and... it was shocking (I lack words to properly explain the feeling). Most posts were, in order of amount of occurrence: cryptocurrency praising like it's 2015, bashing on leftism, some weird humor I didn't understand (maybe it was better not to understand), anti-government stuff, racist memes and a (maybe lost) user that posted some beautiful photos they took as amaetur photography practice. I literally stopped scrolling and uninstalled it when I saw a post claiming that pasteurizing milk is a genocide and an act from the government against us (the other users were even endorsing it!)

[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Definitely a good technology overrun with cultists. Better content curation tools & more users will fix it

Heads up, I sometimes post screenshots of replies like this as examples of how nostr looks to outsiders, because those cultists act confused about why no one joins

[–] morto@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago

Did you say screenshot? I better fix the typing errors and dress my finest clothes!

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a shame that Nostr's brand is tainted by its community in a lot of people's eyes, there's a lot to like about it as a protocol and as a free software project that is independent from that stuff.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Tbh I think of Lemmy in the same terms. Like, people contemplating coming here from e.g. Reddit could block all the anti-Western propaganda (e.g. calling for actual murder against us), and find some pools of content that are halfway worthwhile... but like, why would they bother? For the ideological purity of not contributing to enshittification? Anyone who thinks that way is already here though.

Whether facing "leftist" tankies on Lemmy or "conservative" right-wingers on Nostr, mainstream non-technical normie users are going to just nope right out of either.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

If you avoid one or two instances you rarely encounter tankies on Lemmy. You'll still encounter leftists, but that's a good thing.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fair, I'm not sure what the solution would be though, even if you explicitly want to optimize for getting as many people as possible using decentralized social media regardless of their politics or cultural preference, some kind of niche culture is going to form.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

If you want an abortion, but your neighbor is willing to fully, literally, and actually kill you for attempting to get one, then how do you get along? Indeed...

The above example is auth-right, while tankies are auth-left. The common denominator is the auth part. You either give in and do whatever the other side wants, or... you do not do that.

Platforming the auth-left seems similar to trying to get people to join Reddit. Either way you are helping someone else feed forward their agenda, which will ultimately arrive at a bad ending.

I do note that PieFed is building an entirely new future, neither platforming tankies nor seeking profits to the exclusion of all else. I am putting my hopes into it.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's stoping you from creating leftist hotspots in Nostr ?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

You have a bunch of white supremacists because there are no bans...

If you're a giant piece of shit saying horrific garbage you're probably going to flock to the platform where no one can do shit about it...

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[–] BossDj@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He got banned for doxxing? Is that right?

I never trust anyone who says "I got banned from ____ for saying _____". I've never seen that claim match the reality of what happened. I hope he posted proof somewhere at some point

*I don't use Bluesky

[–] artyom@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think sharing publicly available documents constitutes doxxing

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[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 25 points 17 hours ago (16 children)

shouldn't really surprise anyone. Didn't their CEO like several months ago pretty much defend a known fascist/tranphob on the platform and essentially told people who complained about it to "not post" out of protest? Also Bluesky is extremely quick to bend to the whims of whatever government body makes demands. They were one of the first sites to quickly implement age verification in the UK I believe.

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[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 19 hours ago

Oh no, surprise, censorship on a centralized platform. No one saw that coming.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

wow if we can't trust me jack dorsey who can we even trust anymore‽

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

did anyone actually trusted jack dorsey?

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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago
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