I still don't understand hating Jews just for their religion. It makes no sense.
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They hate them because medieval laws allowed Jews to loan money at interest. So the lords and kings would take out the loans to pay for their armies and then incite a pogrom when the loan payment came due.
I think I remember reading that similar laws placed Jews in other industries seemed as dirty, such as legal and medical fields. By happenstance those ended up being very desirable as society changed. Jews were often persecuted and blamed for a lot of social ills in that era, that, in addition to resisting cultural assimilation, meant they kept in fairly insulated communities, which made it easier to put them in the category of "outsider".
What's even crazier is when you realize the main three (Islam, Judaism, Christianity) all literally worship the same God. They just disagree on prophets.
I find it hilarious when I say that on various forums and often it's the xtians that usually object that they worship Allah.
Usually I do this in the context of explaining how using the term "God" as a stand-in for their god (meaning: Jehovah/Allah/Yahweh) is so very provincial and presumptuous.
Sometimes I've had a few Jews try to claim that Jehovah/Allah/Yahweh are not the same entity, and also that using the full name of their god is something I should not do because it's "offensive". I realize that xtianity and Islam are both retcons that both claim their legitimacy based on the OT, but for some reason, pointing this obvious fact out is something some people pretend to be offended by. In any case, I point out these rules are for the adherents of book clubs, not for others who have not opted into these book clubs. Being "offended" by someone using the full name of a fictional entity is therefore a choice.
I, for one, refuse to play along with their game of assuming the use of [g|G]od automatically means the Abrahamic one...
the same god
So... Money?
Oh, I'm aware
But do you overstand?
Tribalism, control, and wealth-accumulation?
Something something killed Christ. Meh. Vance is such a spineless weasel.
I'm an atheist, so that tracks.
Since Christians believe that Christ died for their sins, wouldn't that ruin their whole shtick if he hadn't been killed?
Its storytelling to build community, not something rational
Maybe two things. Have you spent significant time as an outsider in a way that you couldn't change and wasn't going to change ? Being on the incontrovertible receiving end can make it clearer that the motives are that of being human beings. This is what human beings do.
And religion, though not so important for lots, is still really important to other lots. I would see the blind spot in underestimating the power of religion in the 21st century.
Yeah... I'm an atheist. From my perspective, religion seems silly at best, and malignant at worst (when used to justify truly evil acts)
Yeah, he’s a bigot. Everything he says, the way he snidely talks about underrepresented groups, the disrespect he shows his own family, all done with a glib goading smile that begs for outrage.
I’m not sure why the author felt the need to sanitize Trump’s antisemitism at the same time as illustrating Vance’s, especially when he pretty much describes them the same way. Vanity driven by fear of turning away supporters vs. political cravenness for fear of losing the base. Don’t see much difference when it comes out as hatred for minorities.
Trump has always struggled to denounce anti-Semitism, whether asked to comment on Kanye West or the tiki-torch carriers in Charlottesville. But that always seemed a product of his vanity; he couldn’t stand to speak ill of acolytes. Vance’s refusal or inability to denounce anti-Semitism is more craven—and therefore more disturbing. He’s clearly made the calculation that anti-Semites are part of the Republican Party’s base, and he can’t afford to shunt them to the side as he plots his own presidential bid.
Wow, I can't believe the admin with deep ties to white supremacy and neo Nazis would support antisemites. Floored.
Nazis? Supporting antisemitism? Say it ain't so! I suppose next you'll tell me water is wet, the sky is blue, and Donald Trump's a child rapist!
So when does "JD" "Vance" get deported, along with those he invited in? I thought being an antisemite was a deportable offense?
The Republican party has always been antisemitic.
How DARE he Invite people who OPPOSE Bombing Children into the Party! How DARE he Invite people AGAINST Shooting Children for Sport into the Party! If ONLY he allowed in Nazis INSTEAD because Nazis are NOT Anti Semetic anymore and Anyone who calls them that HATES ISRAEL!
I think you misunderstood.
The antisemites referenced in the article are not the people falsely labeled as antisemites because they want Israel to stop committing genocide. He's not suddenly pro Palestine. I'm sure Vance hates them too.
The antisemites that Vance is welcoming are real antisemites. Actual Nazis. People who want to murder your Jewish family, friends, and neighbors.
TBF the term is tossed around liberally these days. But you are correct, this is the type of antisemite that wants to start a genocide, not the kind that wants to end one.