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Angel Ureña said ex-president, pictured in some photos released by justice department, cut ties with Epstein in 2005

A spokesperson for Bill Clinton accused the White House late on Friday of using him as a scapegoat after pictures of the former president with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, as well as with a young woman in a pool, were included as part of congressionally ordered release of government files.

“The White House hasn’t been hiding these files for months only to dump them late on a Friday to protect Bill Clinton,” the spokesperson said in a statement on X.

“This is about shielding themselves from what comes next, or from what they’ll try and hide forever. So they can release as many grainy 20-plus-year-old photos as they want, but this isn’t about Bill Clinton. Never has, never will be,” the statement added.

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[–] ghostlychonk@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, yes, but also if Clinton was involved in the heinous shit, toss him in the cell with the rest of the scum.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“This is about shielding themselves from what comes next, or from what they’ll try and hide forever.“

This feels like they’re calling their shot though. Like he knows there’s nothing incriminating to come out about himself and, like the rest of us, assumes there will be something being hidden by Trump.

[–] human@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As much as he's featured and obviously likely involved, it seems like he would absolutely know "what comes next" for [redacted], so if that's the case:

  1. This statement gives me some hope that they are confident that something meaningful will come out.
  2. Fuck him for keeping it hidden, even if legally required to.
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

He may also be saying these things cause he knows Trump will never release anything implicating Clinton cause it would also implicate Trump.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sure, he's an easy target, but he is in the files. Making him the focus, though, is a clear attempt at misdirection.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nonetheless I'd be happy to see him occupy a cell next to the Rapist-in-Chief.

[–] 0k_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Heck, let them share!

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They act as if we give a flying fuck? Clinton goes to prison if he raped children, plain and simple. We don't protect pedophiles like GOP. [REDACTED] is in those files too and we all know it! [REDACTED] needs to be mussolinified. I always picked Mario as a kid, but lately I choose Luigi.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, we should give a flying fuck about Trump trying to distract people.

Sure, throw Clinton on the chopping block too, but don't get distracted from the orange kid rapist himself. It's more important to get the child molester who has actual power than the one who's been retired for a decade. Obviously, get both, but the order of priority is important.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not that it really matters to your point, but hasn't Clinton been retired for two and a half decades?

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

From the presidency, sure, but he's been somewhat active up until Hillary got her ass handed to her in 16.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago
[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We always knew Clinton was dirty, though. The whole Monica Lewinsky thing ~30 years ago.

Ironic that the same party that impeached Clinton for [lying about] that defend a president from their party who did the same and worse with underage girls against their will. What Clinton did was wrong, though I care more that he took advantage of an intern, first and foremost, and second that he cheated on his wife... that he lied about it ranks far lower on my list. It's just wild to me that people only think it's wrong when it's a politician they don't like. I guess that's the difference between the left and the right. Left politician diddles kids, we want them out. Right politician diddles kids, their followers say it's fine because a politician on the left did it, too — but they absolutely support prosecuting the guy on the left. Not their guy, who they revere.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

that he lied about it ranks far lower on my list.

He lied about it under oath. While testifying before Congress. As the defendant in a sexual harassment suit. That's the only part that matters legally.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He didn't, actually. The lawyers very clearly defined in that court "sexual relations" as P in V. Clinton, being a lawyer, saw the ability to drop that line, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" as a legal win. And it was.

The prosecution wasn't trying to win in that court. They were trying to destroy his PR.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I remember a con just about having an aneurysm over Clinton "getting away" with...a BJ. Every time it came up. Well into the 2000s.

The cons all spent the better part of a decade trying to "get" Bill and/or Hillary on something and thought they had a slam dunk on the stain on a dress. And then the technical aspect of "lying under oath".

I ask these types what he really did that was truly illegal (aside from the supposed "lying under oath") since adultery is not illegal. One of these guys explodes with: "BUT IT SHOULD BE!"

Dude is already reddish-purple with rage, but I asked him what he thought about ol' Newt doing the same thing: Reaction: What are you even talking about? (I calmly explain Newt was cheating on his wife while sermonizing about Clinton) Practically popping a blood vessel: SO WHAT? WHO CARES?!!! I'M TALKING ABOUT CLINTON!

meanwhile trump can't even fart without it being a lie. violate court orders and face absolutely no consequences.

also, Clinton was president during that lie, and according to current laws (I know laws don't apply retroactively, but that specific law was), Clinton perjury would not be a crime, let alone an impeachable offense.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

It's the only part that matters ethically

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

Bubba whole tip

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

FIFA will give trump a cock sucking prize.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Clinton was supposed to be the guardrails for all of this, I imagine.

Meaning, the cons probably assumed that, like they are, the left is super-tribal and are just "team blue" when it comes to shit like this. When I doubt there are very few even moderate Democratic voters that could give a rat's ass if Clinton gets implicated or not. If he's in there, so fucking what? Release them all anyway.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans are such rabbid morons, they just project their tribalism on Democrats.

I couldn't give a shit about any individual politican and ANY that has done illegal shit I want prosecuted.

For some reason this simply does not compute in the Republican Neanderthal brain.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

You could see this in action for quite some time as Donvict was found guilty of various crimes, such as stoking an insurrection and plotting a coup: "Oh yeah? Whatabout HUNTER'S LAPTOP!?"

IRL, I'd shrug and say...what about it? Sure if they find any actual there there, it should be pursued. That kind of reaction tends to totally deflate them. They want you to fly to the ramparts to defend YOUR criminal against THEIR criminal. I don't give that much of a fuck about Hunter or Joe (although I realize the accusations are probably just an actual witch hunt like they accuse everyone else of doing - just like they waged a jihad against the Clintons for nearly a decade which resulted in a land deal they lost money on and a stained dress.) and remain completely unbothered by any of this kind of bullshit.

If Bill or Hillary or Hunter or Joe were to get in legal trouble for legit reasons....shrug. So unbothered.

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Of course they are. They want to shine a spotlight on the most prominent Democrat in the files so that he becomes associated with the files. They either hope the association changes from trump to Clinton or that the Democrats will see one of their idols in the cross hairs and back down.

We all know though that the Democrats stated position though is if anyone did wrong, prosecute regardless of politics.

Trump doesn't seem to realise his documented close association with Epstein makes his absence from the files that are released highly suspicious. If it really is innocent, then realising all of the evidence would clear Trump. Instead he is releasing non incriminating things about Clinton and redacting everyone else. I mean they really do not respect the American people at all, they think they are dumb and can be manipulated into believing whatever they want. Except it isn't working this time...

[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago
[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

That may be true, but it's also a non denial denial. Well done, we appreciate the lulz.

[–] little_beefy@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

JAIL 👏 THEM 👏 ALL

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

It couldn't have happened to a more deserving former president. Let quit pretending this Epstein thing is republican vs democrat. Its all of these corrupt mentally ill trash humans. None of them should have any power over anyone. They lack basic human qualities.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 4 points 1 day ago

Either way, yes, they’re using him as a distraction from Trump and other Republicans.

Guilty is guilty though.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we send them both to the Hague for their war crimes? Seems like an easier conviction than maybe some connection to some guy who raped children

[–] RedC@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Were the only country that states in its law on the ICC/Hague that we will invade if any American is held tried or convicted there.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, but that's if someone is taken by the Hague. I'm saying that the US should send them there. It's what the people want

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe the problem is that young people are getting their news about the ~~genocide in Palestine~~ Epstien Files from TikTok?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Since when pedophiles have spokespersons?