Nice play with the capitulation on the shutdown in return for “we pinky promise we’ll let you call a vote for the thing you want but no bet on actually passing it lol”. A real political masterstroke, that.
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Fuck Chuck. And also, every single republican.
Schmuck Schumer. It's long past time to primary that smarmy, insipid little bitch. AOC should turn on him, and take him out, the same way she took out the calcified old fart whose seat in Congress she took.
I want to see her in the Senate, causing trouble like Bernie. He's really old, and like it or not, he can't last much longer, and AOC would be a perfect replacement for him, until more progressives can win Senate elections, which is coming. Otherwise, we won't have any real progressive representation in the Senate, and we need a LOT more, not none.
If Schmuckie won't back down and decline to run, and endorse her, then she should savage him with his piss poor record of defending America from the MAGA scourge, and his massive insider trading fortune. Right now, we need every one of our elected representatives to be all hands on deck, full court press, everybody in the game. We can't have people more concerned about preserving their ill-gotten gains, than doing their jobs, so sweep them out, MAGA and DINO alike.
I mean they only did a continuing resolution so they can 100% force the issue again. Maybe once the average American actually sees the increase they'll care.
Personally I think this was the strategy from the beginning, but the way they played it made them look really weak.
There's also a very good possibility they are juat bumbling around with no real strategy.
These fuckers get a lot of time off, fer not doing much work.
I mean, I don't see the point. You could keep people in there, but the GOP intended to kill off the enhanced subsidies. They aren't likely to go reverse themselves. It's not like spending more time in some conference room is going to suddenly change things.
And I would expect that the Democrats don't have any expectation to get sufficient support to change the situation in 2026, but by having an explicit vote on it, they get to bludgeon the Republicans with having explicitly killed it ("see, they don't get to claim that they voted against it for other bundled policy reasons. They really do want to take your health care subsidies away"). That might be advantageous to the Democrats in the midterms, since they have a nice, clear example of the Republicans doing something unpopular that'll be hard to wiggle away from.
I remember what it was like to believe that people made rational decisions when it comes to voting. I don't get how you still think that when we're coming up on 2026 though.
You're right, the voting dynamic has changed, but people still respond to a personal issue, IF the party is willing to properly spread the message. Health Care is a perfect issue to center a campaign on, especially if EVERY candidate is on that page, and drives it home in their campaign.
But making that issue all about Obamacare Subsidies is fucking weak. MAGAs can lie all over that issue, and talk about how broken that system was, and it will resonate with voters because while Obamacare was better than nothing, it wasn't a LOT better. It still carried high premiums for many, and it still had enormous deductibles, that almost made it impossible to use for many. It was really just super high price catastrophic insurance, only good in the case of really bad hospital stay situation. Even then, there were limits.
Instead, cut them off at the knees, and finally go all in on Medicare 4 All. The MAGAs will scream we can't afford it, but that won't ring true after all their corruption, and the Dems can recite a laundry list of MAGA corruption to pay for it, starting with the ICE budget and the bloated military budget, then start taxing the living daylights out of the Sociopathic Billionaires and their corporations. After that, strip the entire fortunes of the scum that tried to sell out this country. They won't need them anymore, since they'll be spending the rest of their days in a dungeon in Gitmo.
We are at a major crossroads in our history at this moment, and we have the opportunity to choose our future path. After FDR created Social Security, Congress held a Democratic majority for 40 years, because voters didn't trust the issue in Republican hands. The Dems need a BIG issue to build the future on, and Medicare 4 All is the PERFECT issue to build a solid foundation for that future, one that EVERY voter will FIGHT for in every election.
And what will the MAGAs run on in the future? Taking away everyone's free health care, and going back to the good old days when voters were paying bankruptcy rates again? They're propaganda is good, but it's not that good.
The idea is they are supposed to go back to their districts and hold things like open halls and listen to their constituents.
Doesn't happen these days
Both sides are chicken to face their constituents. MAGAs because they're such shitheads, and Dems because they are so infuriatingly weak and inneffective. The strong ones who are doing their jobs, like AOC, don't mind meeting their constituents because they're actually working hard every day.
That's not true,they work really hard! There's a lot of lobbyists to talk to, campaigning for re-election constantly, and donor parties where they have to get their marching orders
Oh boy, I can’t wait to pay $800 more a month for health insurance that doesn’t cover anything I actually need. I’m so glad half the country is dumb as rocks and thought this guy was anything other than a rapist pedophile grifter who actively hates this country and its people.
Never forget the names of the traitorous Democrats that joined with fascists in voting to murder Americans.
John Fetterman - Pennsylvania
Catherine Cortez Masto - Nevada
Jacky Rosen - Nevada
Dick Durbin - Illinois
Jeanne Shaheen - New Hampshire
Maggie Hassan - New Hampshire
Tim Kaine - Virginia
And Angus King of Maine, though Independent, has the same blood on his murderous hands.
Also, don't forget that Chuck Schumer was too chickenshit to vote with these assholes despite orchestrating the surrender.
good thing they got a promise for a vote when they reopened the government! 🙃
They were willing to keep it closed while citizens went hungry, but as soon as the airports starting getting affected, and corporations found it inconvenient to move their operatives around the country, the DINOs sold us out and folded really quickly.
Sucker punch your representatives.
The people who still support this guy claim Obamacare was already failing, so this is actually a good thing.
These people are too wealthy to care. They don't even see us, everyone. They. Don't. See. Us.
But heaven forbid we get time off.
It’s interesting that people who have health care through their employers don’t really feel the urgency. If they loose their jobs then it’s an immediate reality check. It probably a factor in why there is a large group who still don’t see it as an important issue.
And that keeps people strapped to jobs where they are routinely abused and underpaid, because they are terrified to lose their health care, which is probably horrendous anyway. Most employer-supported insurance programs have high premiums and high deductibles, and aren't any better than Obamacare. Obamacare just allowed those without health care to buy into a similar, but equally poor, system.
Companies love having health care tied to employment, because it helps their retention rates. That's one of the reason they oppose Obamacare. People are afraid to switch jobs, and lose their health care. Even if the new job offers health care, it is often 6 months before a new hire can access it, and many people can't go six months without health care.
People who are comfortably employed with health care, aren't going to rock the boat for 20% of the population. But imagine if they're told that their new health insurance will be better than what they have now, AND be free. Beyond that, it will also free up the health care costs that your employer was paying, and counting as part of your compensation. Without the burden of paying for health care, they can now be mandated by the government to pay the employee those health care funds directly, in the form of a fatter paycheck.
Your health care will get better, it will be free, and you'll get a fat raise at work, whether your employer likes it or not. Who wouldn't vote for that?
I had open enrollment through my work last month and those prices were 35% higher for us each paycheck as well. I emailed my reps in NC but they dont care about their constituents.
My work healthcare went up as well. They were like "well I'm sure you've seen all over the news that healthcare costs are going up" I think it was just an excuse to pass costs onto us because they also are dropping other benefits too that they've always offered.
they were never planning on extending it, most likely it was agreed upon with the DINOs way before the shutdown was ended early with the DEMs, they just dont want hurting the pockets of thier financiers of congress. Dinos were never going to do either because it gives them a single/wedge issue to be able to campaign on the next election.
The MAGAs lost the Abortion issue when they let the dog catch the car. The Dems aren't going to be that dumb. Now they've got Health Care to run on for the next few elections, so the last thing they'll want is to solve that problem, and lose their main campaign bludgeon.
Have the health care you voted for Dumberikkka 🤡