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Despite a pledge from DNC Chair Ken Martin to release the post-election report, the committee announced Thursday it would not share it publicly.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago

Billionaire donors are complicit, maybe directly, maybe indirectly.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The report: "Moving further right and chasing mythical unicorn Republicans who would magically vote for a Democrat instead of actually giving voters what they want doesn't work. Nor does supporting genocide without question."

DNC: "....well we can't print that now can we. It's all our donors allow us to do. Get Cheney back on the line, we'll trot her out again and just try harder to get Republicans to vote for us!"

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Although if they wanted to get Republican votes, they could just start working for the working class instead of their billionaire donors. FDR won 4 times with insane margins.

That will never happen so long as billionaires exist, though.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

depressingly plausible take.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago

Well it must not be because of trans people, because they would have released that shit

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The DNC is controlled opposition. A controlled opposition party would not act differently. The DNC does not seem interested in winning the next election if they cannot critically and publicly acknowledge why they lost 2024 (and 2016)

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

~~Russia~~ Antifa, if you're listening...

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've said this in my other comments closer to the election but it bares repeating.

Democrats lost for two main reasons:

  • they failed to energize their base
  • they didn't push Biden out fast enough

They didn't have much control over the second point. Biden was holding onto power like every other president until other party leaders turned on him.

But DNC fully owns the first point. 2024 saw the same playbook as 2016: at least I'm not Trump.

That worked in 2020 because Trump was president. But the DNC failed to deliver any lasting and impactful change during Biden that everyday Americans could point their finger and say, "I want more of that." Instead, Biden delivered mediocre "stay the course" programs, which given the Republican Congress, was a miracle but it doesn't win you elections.

The DNC report probably blames Harris for being a woman and probably puts blame on genocide issue voters and will, undoubtedly, learn the wrong lesson again. They are going to keep moving to the right despite clear evidence that the American people want a government that works for them, and not a government they merely tolerate.

If you want change in the DNC, we need to form a new party. The perfect time is to start now, before primaries are underway for midterms. Have progressive candidates sign on as Democrats, pledging to support a progressive party if enough representatives win. If the DNC complains that they are splitting the vote, progressives should clap back and say they are bowing to fascists.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

The perfect time is to start now, before primaries are underway for midterms.

This is the core point: not being Trump shouldn't be the only reason, but it should also have been enough of a reason not to risk the spoiler effect. Doing this now, before the stakes are so high that the spoiler becomes unacceptable, is a way to test the waters, set the stage and give non-voting progressives a reason to vote.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Biden was the only thing that stopped concecutive trump terms. Imagine in a good candidate like Mamdani was running instead of that fucking turd Harris.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Absolute nonsense, anyone would have beaten Trump in 2020, and the four years of Biden failing to hold Trump accountable or help the working class at all (while braying like a jackass about how great the economy was) totally handed the White House back to the orange asshole. He is without a doubt one of the worst presidents we've ever had.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

How about Hilary or Harris?

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

The Comprehensive 2024 Election Theft Fact Check is a well researched take on all of this. Have to admit that sharing it feels like a blue-Q type thing (Trump and the MAGAgats have done a great job poisoning the well when it comes to questioning election integrity) but if you can get through it all, it does line up with a valid take on the 2024 election.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They still can't figure it out.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago

No just don't want to publicly admit anything