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I am tired of this world, these people. I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 32 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

I had previous learned that we will run out of oil soon. It seems this is not the scientific consensus - it's just that known reserves will run out in about 50 years. In other words, this meme can repeat itself ad nauseam. We should look at every US geopolitical strategy or even statement through this lens. Greenland? Canada? Oil!

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks to the improvements in efficiency and price fluctuations that allowed shale oil extraction and the like, as well as new exploration, for all intents and purposes, we still have a basically unlimited amount of oil.

When oil gets expensive, it justifies infrastructure that was previously economically unfeasible and not part of our reserves. And once that infrastructure is in place, the price can still go down and it can sustain itself. Is it really unlimited? Absolutely not. But innovation and economics have stretched what's available to a level of surprising longevity.

At this rate of price fluctuation and investment, in 300 years we will be extracting the oil from your facial pores and still have a "50 year reserve".

It's kinda a neat thing if it wasn't for all the shitty side effects, tbh.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And since BASF already invented methods to revert plastic to oil, if the price is right, we wouldn't even need oil anymore, just trash.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

BASF, the ones making my video tapes?

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Are they? I mean the large petrochemical company from Germany

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

I know, I'm just joking about many people remembering them from C- and VHS cassettes.

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Yes, actually.

Within weeks we constructed a pipeline
Within years we'll have run the place dry
It'll just about last us our lifetime
So it's hip hip hoorays and high fives

https://genius.com/Kaiser-chiefs-cannons-lyrics
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9wg4V38p2g

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Do you think Americans were not bombing brown people when Democrats were in power? Didn't Obama get a Nobel Peace Prize while having a top score in drone kill strikes? Lol. The empire is evil and murderous, regardless of who's playing the part of the leader.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This was about starting wars for oil though

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oil, regime change, minerals, or simply to feed the MIC, all are valid reasons for America/the West to go ahead and murder innocents unscrupulously. 😔

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody was saying that though

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but does the reason matter when Americans murder all year round regardless? It's for power, that's all, and Republicans are horrible, disgusting people, sure, but for the rest of the world Dems are basically the same since they also have innocent blood on their hands. This "when Reps are in everything is shit but not when Dems are in" is part of the issue in America. The reality is that the ideological basis of America is fucked, always was, a group of self-centered violent maniacs who believe in nothing but their own comfort and have historically behaved like murderous beasts, and it doesn't change because you have some charming brown dude in power instead of some decrepit blond dude with jowls.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it matters when it comes to this particular meme

Okay okay, fair enough. 👍

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Obama was awarded the Nobel only nine months into his first term, so he hadn't really had the chance to rack up the requisite number of war crimes to be awarded the peace prize.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They believed in him and, from what I recall, he did his job thoroughly (something like 500+ drone strikes? Wasn't there one at a wedding too?). Yes we can! 😂 These people are fucking monsters, lol.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 points 8 hours ago

And then came trump, in first weeks, tripling the rate of drone bombing kills, and to solve that, he ordered the publishing of drone bombing stats be silenced. So now both sides in the purple party bubble can think their side the angels. ... Or at least, lesser evils. Ready to give their vote to evil come the next pseudo-election, with a clean conscience, as the candidates furnish their minds with fresh promises of ending wars, and so on...

... Something's broken in people's brains for continuing to fall for it.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (4 children)

We aren't both-sidesing this, are we?

Obama was a breath of fresh air on the international stage and widely respected, globally for good reason. It was clear to anyone paying even half attention that he was confronting powerful forces.

Couple points of fact to mention:

  • Obama used drone strikes, yes.
  • These Drone Strikes are orders of magnitude more precise with far less collateral damage than traditional warfare strategies used by his predecessors.
  • Obama passed an executive order making these drone strikes transparent to the public, understanding the danger.
  • Trump came in and reversed that transparency, making them classified.
  • Obama's civilian death toll is significantly less than Trump's first term alone.

By the way:

  • Nearly all dissenting opinions on Iraq and Afghanistan originated from Democrats or Independents who caucused with Democrats for good reason.
  • Nearly all later dissent came from this side as well.
  • A Democrat is the one who actually got us out of Iraq
  • A Democrat is the one who actually got us out of Afghanistan
  • A Democrat is the one who actually stayed on task to eliminate Bin Laden.

Republicans start wars; Democrats usually get them out. Perfect? No. But there is a very, very clear trend.

Getting tired of seeing this false equivalence nonsense.

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[–] SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 14 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I hope Biden runs again in 2028 to fix this back up.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 8 points 13 hours ago

I hope that's a joke; the elderly shouldn't be in charge.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 12 hours ago

obama will really break thier minds, if trump runs a 3rd time, so can he.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

He might be a zombie by then. It would still be a step up.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The Gulf War was about kicking Iraq out of Kuwait, after Iraq invaded. It had a wide support, both worldwide and within the Arab world. Saudi Arabia and Egypt actively participated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

Check the coalition drop down.

Iraq invaded Kuwait because economic collapse and oil disputes thinking the west won't go to war for this emirate.

Don't come citing the deep magic, I was there when it was written.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How Americans don't take this as a sign that their electoralism is always bound for failure will forever remain a mystery to me. You emerge from the fallout of Republican leaders by voting democrats and joyously claim, "the storm has passed" and "we should never repeat these mistakes". Come 8 or so years and a Republican is re-elected.

How have you guys not en masse realized that democratic reign is merely a refractory period for Republican governance? Why have you not organized and promoted other parties? The greens are slow and will take a lot of work to build, but Rome wasn't built in a day. This cycle will continue until you've en masse woken up to the real contradictions driving your politics.

Spiel over!

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 hours ago

our constitution is intentionally structured to favor the wants and needs of capital holders instead of the working people

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

The 1980s were another big part of this trend.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Who’s ready to send there kids off to war to die for oil, I mean freedom? 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 hours ago

Missed a bit

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