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As always, the story Minneapolis residents are sharing is different from what ICE claims.

ICE agents violently restrained a woman in Minneapolis on Monday, dragging her through the snow and pinning her face down as onlookers shouted that the woman was pregnant.

During what was supposed to be a “targeted vehicle stop,” according to ICE officials, protesters swarmed the agents. Esme Murphy, a WCCO reporter, was on the scene, where she saw ICE holding a woman on the ground.

“Please let her go! She’s pregnant!” one onlooker shouted.

“Get her off of her fucking stomach,” another said.

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 110 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you're ever lucky enough to get selected for jury duty on an "assault on a federal officer" case, then I believe it is your civic duty to acquit, no matter the evidence.

Google "jury nullification".

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It just take 1 person to nullify a jury.

We can do better and just nullify a grand jury, that way they dont even get charges through.

[–] Jagger2097@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But then they can try again.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only with a misdemeanor charge. A grand jury is pass or fail.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Grand jury is simple majority so one person saying no doesn't matter, and it's for indictments only. A failed indictment isn't an acquittal. They can try again with a different grand jury.

Petit juries do the trial, you need a uanimous verdict, even a 7/12 or a 11/12 "not guilty" vote is not an aquittal and the charges can be brought again and again forever (unless the judge dismisses it with prejudice).

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but there are whole grand Juries in DC doing nullifications. Like the sandwich guy ... that's what I am hoping will happen.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Famously, the Boston Massacre started with a crowd of Americans throwing snowballs at a militarised police force.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre

If any of the ICE officers fired into the crowd, we would have mesurably surpassed the conditions that started the American Revolution.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Minus men of character forming militias. We're fucked.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago

Be the change you want to see.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Oh we have men of character forming militias alright.

The character is just a lobotomized and racist Elmer Fudd.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Were I to do that in public, I’d expect horrific consequences. Feeling safe enough to kill a pre-infant seems like a failure of the system to me.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

"But the baby would be born brown so it's okay to do an involuntary abortion." - The Trump Regime

[–] Resplendent606@piefed.social 78 points 2 days ago

Clown shoes and a clown show. They are not "just doing their jobs." They are bad people who sign up to do this shit. Fuck ICE. Every last one of them. I wish there was a hell with a special place for every one of them. They are not law enforcement. These are not laws that they enforce. It state sanctioned terrorism.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What in the serious fuck is wrong with ICE officers. They aren't professionals, they are a joke.

Threatening the crowd? I can't even with this level of stupidity. Dumb thugs.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 21 points 2 days ago

They're fascists.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're small people, who think they're big because they got a bit of power, a badge and a gun.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

🎶"Pushing little children... with thier fully automatics.."🎶

🎶"They like to push the weak around!"🎶

🎶"They like to push the weak around!"🎶

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Shi I read this on The Beatles' voices

[–] Colonel_Panic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Whoa, whoa, whoa there, that is unfair. I'm not entirely sure they even have badges.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder when folks are going to start throwing bullets at ICE?

If ice went after the dangerous gangs, it would have happened already, they only target people they can bully.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

No one will know who threw the rock covered in snow

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Make a list of every single ICE officer and let the investigations begin once with madness finally ends.

I have a feeling atleast half should be doing some jail time for crimes they have committed while hiding under the ICE name.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Nah. I don't think we should prosecute them. SCOTUS will just find a way to get them off the hook. Or most likely, Trump will issue a blanket pardon for them all on the way out the door.

Instead, I'm thinking more internationally. These folks like deporting people right? Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Well think of all the human rights abuses happening in ICE facilities right now. If a Venezuelan national dies due to neglect in an ICE facility, that represents a crime against a citizen of Venezuela, a crime that can be prosecuted in Venezuela.

I propose that we simply extradite ICE agents to the countries of their victims. Let them face justice there.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

kneels on pregnant woman

Shit.

Honestly, every single time I think there can't be any more horrid shit to surprise me... there is.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

In a just society it wouldn't be snowballs

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope they extra packed the snowballs so they hit like a block of ice. Ice on ICE violence. That's what I'm here for.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alanis Morissette intensifies

[–] Colonel_Panic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Isn't it ironic? Don't you think? It's like losing your rights in a free country. It's being pro life, but not feeding a kid. He's done 10,000 crimes and no justice. It's doin everything right, And still get mugged by ICE.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I am lucky not to be in america, and I am not in that position, but if an Ice agent does this to a pregnant woman in front of me, I am sure as hell going to do something emotional in that moment.

I am suprised we have not really seen crowds jumping small groups of Ice agents to rescue their neighbours.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The one issue is they want that to happen. Then they can justify using Force against people as they try to do this. One of the reasons they brought national guard into many of these cities was so that way if it devolved into the use of force they had justification to start shooting immigrants.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are absolutely correct. I am not sure I would be able to stay that diciplined for this long.

At some point, I expect they wont care about having an excuse and start escalating the violence anyway.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

I can guarantee they're going to continue test late until they get to that point. They're testing the waters to see how far Americans are willing to let it go. They're already getting followed they're already getting filmed that already getting the whistle brigades after them which currently are one of the best uses because it draws attention to what they're doing they can't do it in the secret and the fact that they started hitting these guys to snowballs and started fighting back in other ways really does help. 

If you want an example of what they're waiting on you look at the shooting that happened at the two national guard members in Washington dc. Most likely was false flag attack and it was sponsored by the CIA because it was an ex CIA trained agent that did the shootings. And they probably paid him and his family a rather huge sum or guaranteed that his family would receive full asylum in the united states. Which I'm sure will be stripped away from them the moment they deem that he is no longer useful to them.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have seen videos of exactly that in Chicago actually. In the one, the masked assholes just get up, jump into their shitty unmarked sedan and drive off.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago

I've seen tons of videos where exactly that happens, some of them as little as four people walking towards them purposely sent them running. I think I've only seen one where they managed to get someone already handcuffed away, but tons where ICE just gets back in their cars and leave

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Maybe it would work if there was a joke allegory about some strangers living in a barn, with a new born baby whilst their country is occupied by colonialist guys that invented fasces.

You know, Christmas.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

We need Nuremberg 2 and FAST

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, I’m surprised nobody whipped out a phone, hit record, screamed “world star” and beat his ass.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago

Filming a beating while yelling worldstar was the bane of the internet. Now it has become what we need.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] modus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe try reading the article? Maybe there's a video embedded there.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 0 points 2 days ago

Link doesn't work for me.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

It depends on the article and the type of event. Eyewitness accounts always have inconsistencies.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

That link isn't working for me in this app, I'll see if I can find it.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

hey bro, your comment got duplicated.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Hey bro, your duplicate got commentated.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 0 points 2 days ago

hey bro, your comment got duplicated.

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