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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Didn’t he go perform for the Saudis?

Shut the fuck up, Jimmy.

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The list is too long to remember, and I don't look it up every single time I mention a comedian.

  • Mo Amer
  • Aziz Ansari
  • Wayne Brady
  • Hannibal Buress
  • Bill Burr
  • Jimmy Carr
  • Dave Chappelle
  • Louis C.K.
  • Whitney Cummings
  • Pete Davidson
  • Chris Distefano
  • Omid Djalili
  • Zarna Garg
  • Ben Hart
  • Kevin Hart
  • Gabriel Iglesias
  • Jimeoin
  • Maz Jobrani
  • Jessica Kirson
  • Jo Koy
  • Bobby Lee
  • Sebastian Maniscalco
  • Sam Morril
  • Mark Normand
  • Russell Peters
  • Jeff Ross
  • Sugar Sammy
  • Andrew Santino
  • Andrew Schulz
  • Tom Segura
  • Ali Siddiq
  • Cipha Sounds
  • Aries Spears
  • Chris Tucker
  • Jack Whitehall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_Comedy_Festival#Participating_acts-

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bill Burr was the biggest disappointment. He went from based to a total piece of shit, gas lightning his fans.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

he's always been a piece of shit, he was just a broken clock sometimes.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Gabriel Iglesias

I'd honestly consider this a war crime.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why the fuck do people care what comedians and actors think about anything?

Most of them barely got out of high school.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago

Bad take for two reasons:

  1. Being consistently funny requires intellect and general cleverness. You can't be quick witted if you're stupid.

  2. More importantly we are all mostly ignorant. You could have a PhD in 3 topics and have spent years in higher education, and you still know only a tiny speck of all that there is to know.

I'm not a fan of Jimmy Carr, especially after the Saudi shit, and I fucking hate AI. But the idea that we shouldn't value the opinions of artists is pretty dumb. There are plenty of smart artists with interesting things to say and unique perspectives.

“Carr studied social science and political science at Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge, graduating with first-class honours in 1994.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carr#Early_life_and_education

There are interesting clips from his stand-up when he takes questions from the audience. Usually he wants to fuck their moms, but occasionally there are very intriguing and intelligent answers.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tl;dw: he has two points:

  1. That between cameras and now AI monitoring, it has just drastically reduced the cost of running an authoritarian regime. He claims that running the Stahsi used to cost like 20% of the government budget, but can now be done for next to nothing and if will be harder for governments to resist that temptation.

  2. That there hasn't been much progress in the world of physics since the 70s, so what happens if you point AI and it's compute power at the field of physics? It could see wondrous progress and a world of plenty.

Personally I think point 1 is genuinely interesting and valid, and that point 2 is kind of incredible nonsense. Yes, all other fields are just simplified forms of physics, and physics fundamentally underlies all of them. That doesn't mean that no new knowledge has come from those fields, and that doesn't mean that new knowledge in physics automatically improves them. Physics has in many ways, done its job. Obviously there's still more to learn, but between quantum mechanics and general relativity, we can model most human scale processes in our universe, with incredible precision. The problem is that that the closer we get to understanding the true underlying math of the universe, the harder it is to compute that math for a practical system... at a certain point, it requires a computer on the scale of the universe to compute.

Most of our practical improvements in the past decade have and will come from chemistry, and biology, and engineering in general, because there is far more room to improve human scale processes by finding shortcuts, and patterns, and designing systems to behave the way we want. AI's computer scale pattern matching ability will undoubtedly help with that, but I think it's less likely that it can make any true physics breakthroughs, nor that those breakthroughs would impact daily life that much.

Again though, I think that point number 1 is incredibly valid. At the end of the day incentives, and specifically cost incentives, drive a massive amount of behaviour. It's worth thinking about how how AI changes them.

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ugh, I'm tired of point 2. Yes, LLMs have found a few patterns in large-scale study analyses that humans hadn't, but they weren't deep insights and there had been buried hypotheses around them from existing authors, IIRC (too lazy to source).

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

AI is not synonymous with LLM. AlphaFold figured out protein folding. It's an AI but not an LLM.

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

100% this, people say they understand AI is a buzzword, but don't realize just how large of an umbrella that term actually is.

Enemy NPCs in video games back to the 80's fall under AI.

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The term AI is actually from the 1950s

The phrase "artificial intelligence" was coined in 1956 by John McCarthy during a workshop at Dartmouth College, where researchers aimed to explore whether machines could think like humans.

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Indeed, but I can't use video games as an example in that time period

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

lmao, you got me there!

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When most people hear AI they think AGI and because a narrow-AI language model doesn't perform the way they expect an AGI to they then say stuff like "it's not intelligent" or "it's not an AI"

AI as a term is about as broad as the term "plants" which contains everything from grass to giant redwoods. LLM is just a subcategory like conifers.

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Or, to be more precise to the point of the comment that started this thread:

Physics is to Chemistry what AI is to LLMs

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Autocorrrect and grammar suggestions are AI.

Steak sauce is A1.

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work primarily in "classical" AI and have been working with it on-and-off for just under 30 years now. Programmed my first GAs and ANNs in the 90s. I survived Prolog. I've had prolonged battles getting entire corporate departments to use the terms "Machine Learning" and "Artificial Intelligence" correctly, understand what they mean, and how to start thinking about them to incorporate them correctly into their work.

Thus why I chose the word "LLM" in my response, not "AI".

I will admit that I assumed that by "AI" Jimmy Carr was referring to LLMs, as that's what most people mean these days. I read the TL;DW by @masterspace@lemmy.ca but didn't watch the original content. If I'm wrong in that assumption and he's referring to classical AI, not LLMs, I'll edit my original post.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

It's not entirely clear what he's referring to, he just uses the term AI broadly in the context of people being worried about job losses, then talks about the reduction in secret police costs that enables, then discusses applying AI to physics.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago

Can you just skip the clickbait and post the answer

[–] nostrauxendar@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Jimmy "Brutal Regime Jester"/"Tax Evasion" Carr wanders into another area of his vast and deep expertise: technology.

I would say he needs to stop flapping his gums but after all the roadwork he's had done on his face I'm not sure they're even his to flap.

[–] antbricks@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just another celebrity talking about stuff they don't really know that much about. Jimmy's witty and all, but his "physics is real and everything else is just stamp collecting"... sigh.

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait until he learns that physics is just applied mathematics

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And mathematics is just applied philosophy

[–] Luckyfriend222@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Somewhere a mathematician just had the biggest heart attack ever 😂

[–] swicano@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Wait until he learns that physics is just theoretical chemistry

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago

Using it for authoritarianism, sure.. But the end state I'm concerned with is a private company building a fleet of robots so big that it can take on a police force or army and win. And then subjugate the population with or just kill everyone off (because who needs everyone else now that there's a robot army do do whatever you want). I definitely wouldn't put it past Elon, Theil, Alex Karp, etc. One of those fuckers would probably do it if they could.