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@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social I'm not an expert, but I'd probably go with the DIY open source approach a supported hardware platform. There you'd full control over the software mirrors and such details.
I use Plasma Cloud access points myself. While they're not technically European, they're not American, either.
@funambolo @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social i take note, i hope to replicate the way of (at least for wifi) unify allow an unified (pun intended) coverage that allow to move easily from one to another AP without diconection.
For the fact it's not european it's not very important if they are open source on software and not american (or chinese) i'm interested.
As chinese have backdoor policy and US ... i mean i would literally prefer to go Chinese backdoor road that anything US right now.
@lexinova @funambolo @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social
> i would literally prefer to go Chinese backdoor road that anything US right now.
Steady on... if you're trying to avoid being snooped rolling your own with FOSS is probably the best bet. Being snooped by someone else isn't solving anything.
Unfortunately that is very hard with wireless cards, consumer ones have limits on the number of stations they will act as AP for and proprietary firmware. There are no modern fully FOSS solutions AFAIK.
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
I finally removed my last Unifi device last year and am not looking back.
I was trying to decide the same, but went with MikroTik since I wanted a solution that covered all my network gear. I also didn't want either US or Non-NATO based solutions. I've been very happy with my choice. Just be careful with the APs. There are US-only models floating around on Ebay. If you buy those, you will get locked out of usable bands.
@36pickledeggs @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik what about update period their website say (lifetime of device or 5y min) unify update since longer so i ask
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik
I'll let Microtik field this question for their side, but this is actually one of the major reasons I started moving away from Ubiquiti. Ubiquiti's support for many for their Edgerouter products seemed very hit or miss only after a few years. They would technically receive security updates, but little to nothing else.
I have a pfsense firewall and a mikrotik AP. Works great. With PfSense, I highly recommend you buy it on an appliance though. There are online shops in the EU which deliver it to you. Check the website.
On the MicroTik, the only complaint I have is that the Web GUI is a complete mess. It's a Wi-Fi AP but every feature that any microtic product has is still visible and can even be changed by user input in the GUI. So you can mess around with 5G settings in spite of the fact it's just a Wi-Fi AP. It does nothing, but clutter the UI.
I had Mikrotik APs, it was terrible, my phone kept losing connection, handover between APs caused long delays, and of course it had the famous Mikrotik UI.
I switched to Ubiquiti and the problems are gone.
I use a Mikrotik wired routers and switches at work and they're fine, no complaints, but if you never interacted with their UI or CLI, watch some tutorial before you buy, because it's not in everyone's taste.
I have OPNSense as a VM and it looks easy enough to use, updates work fine, I never tried pushing it beyond the features it has built in though.
@RheumatoidArthritis ubiquiti us out the windows, to much reliance on US it's an unnaceptable risk in 2025 due to their orange nazi betrayal
Yeah, noticed that in your post. Consider this my comment on the quality of Mikrotik wireless devices.
@RheumatoidArthritis this issue is fixed by the Wifi spec V6 (aka Wifi 6) Fast roaming, that prevent package drop and fast move from one AP to another.
What about the case when the devices just dropped wifi when not moving? It was just a shit AP, a cheap linksys e3000 that I used before didn't have the problem.
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik for the mirror, I have a openwrt archive on mine. For the WiFi stuff, if you manage to find something that does AP roaming, I m very interested
@lexinova @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik just brought a cAP AC and couldn't be happier. Bit of a steep learnimg curve.
Also brought a CSS326 in error, was supposed to be a CRS, and the hardware looks fine but the French supplier is awful (@mikrotik happy to name and shame them if you're curious) insisting it is returned to Poland. Am still going to get a CRS326 and an outdoor cAP.
@EF @buyeuropean@feddit.uk @buyeuropean@mastodon.social @mikrotik yeah i'm still hesiting on what to take if i take them.
1gig of Ram not sure it's enough :/, also check on potential crowdsec integration.
i actually have unify so i have an IDS/IPS and i don't know how to have something similar as it do not exist on mikrotik