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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sTaTeS rIgHts *

*does not apply to Democrats or people trying to protect human rights within a state if it conflicts with right wing authoritarians' vision for how everyone else should live.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Republicans have always been hypocrites.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago

Good thing executive orders are not laws.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And suddenly, State Republicans are fine with having the Federal government take away their rights.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 12 points 20 hours ago

Well no, because this order has zero legal weight. They are liars, though, for pretending it does.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago

Conservatives have always been fine with federal government taking away other states rights.

The civil war started because the South didn't want the federal government to force them to stop using slaves but 100% okay with the federal government forcing Northern states to return slaves back to the South.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

The cons whine about things like gender fluidity, but they've always been quite morally fluid, let's say....

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 34 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this effectively toothless? Like executive orders only effect things directly under federal and more specifically executive purview meaning even a city government could pass a regulation on AI in their area and it'd have more legal weight than an executive order. Or are they abusing unrelated powers to declare that no one can regulate AI?

Like I'm pretty sure the supremacy clause doesn't apply to executive orders.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 31 points 20 hours ago

Yes, you are correct. A federal law would preempt a state law, usually. But this is not a federal law, so it's a load of kindling.

So are they saying AI is a national security threat? Or that living without AI is a national security threat, in which one would imagine AI should be provided free access by the federal government to every person, as it is a threat to not have access? As an executive order is designed to be used only for an issue of national security, which we must have been living in such a threat since the country was founded until now.

[–] MisterCurtis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Let me get this straight. AI now has more rights than we do?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Since AI is being created within private tyrannies we call "corporations", which also have more rights than we do, it's only natural.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 4 points 23 hours ago

Pretty sure it always did

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Remember all the movies that said we would bully them? They hadn't factored in the "economy".

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Id imagine this may get thrown out in court

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 13 hours ago

He's trying to rule by decree, but most of his orders are for things he has no authority to do.

They should be printed on soft paper so at least someone could wipe their ass with them.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 hours ago

Ya even with our conservative court they even can’t ignore the power states have in enforcing their own laws outside of what the constitution specifically says the federal controls. I guess that assumes if any of them even care about the constitution anymore.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

This is almost certainly because this very thin economy, or at least the stock market, is only barely staying afloat on the back of the AI bubble. This move could create room for them to superficially extend the bubble as long as possible and maximize their profits.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 18 hours ago

"Let's push something that destroys the ecology and economy! We'll call it "AI"! People everywhere will be jobless and suffering except for us!". The world, with usa as a superpower, is very badly broken. Maybe it's time to drop off the usa at the old folks home.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

State rights much?

[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Executive orders don't apply to states. States are not federal employees

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago

What about States rights?