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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 84 points 20 hours ago (38 children)

Opposing fascism isn’t far left. That’s just being a decent person.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

The US doesn’t really have a far left. It barely has a left. What MAGA calls left tends to be rather center, like the position that people should be able to afford healthcare.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 41 points 20 hours ago

"Radical left Joe Biden" will never not be funny.

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[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Advanced strawman. Opposing fascism isn't far left. It's just not-right.

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[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What if I informed you that there are more than two options, and they don't have to be extremities? And what if I followed up by informing you that what we have in the US, for a political spectrum, is not the norm elsewhere in the world?

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The political spectrum in the U.S. omits leftists entirely. Both Republicans and Democrats are pro-capitalism and pro-U.S. imperialism.

[–] Isolde@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And what if that not only changed nothing, but didn’t refute the post?

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

My reply was more aimed at the title of the post and its sentiment. "Pick a side"

I'm not a believer that there are only two political options for the US, long term, and would love to see a true political multi-party representation in the US government. I believe that something not completely (EU) far left will prevail in the US. And absolutely not the (US) far right. (Perhaps I'm just being a wishful fool, and the US will crash and burn in the next 1-5 years. Hopefully, we can make it out of this mess without doing so. But if it has to happen, so be it.)

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

completely (EU) far left

The EU is only "far left" in comparison to the US.

But that's because the US has moved so far to the right that they can't see any other political position from where they stand.

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Centrists are actually with maga, they just don't wear the hat. See Fetterman, Schumer, Jeffries, etc

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 7 points 13 hours ago

I'll summarize something I said before:

Democrats will hurt you for money, but Republicans will pay for the privilege. Both parties subservient to capital but there are still meaningful distinctions. Change must come from the bottom.

[–] Arctic_monkey@leminal.space 6 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Counterargument: Centrists are actually a diverse group with many very different positions, that just have in common the fact they don't agree with either of the currently dominant political factions.

Aggressive reposte: what you just did (political stereotyping, where you label everyone who disagrees with you as basically being the same cartoon villain) is, in my experience, an example the left-wing bigotry that drives centrists away from your political faction. Disagreeing with your doesn't mean that I agree with the hateful morons on the right, it just means I also see and won't tolerate your bigotry.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Yet another poorly made fallacy meme. Is there a bot just crapping out this same template every few days?

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Far left citizens may oppose fascism but their leaders aren't doing a good job of it. America needs a better left wing party.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

your right because there is none

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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 7 points 20 hours ago

We hate centrists. Everyone hates centrists

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How about we stop pretending that the left doesn't have its own share of emotionally damaged asshats and try to pick leadership that solves problems instead of pandering to one side or the other?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

tankies are probably the worst presentation of the "left"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

i think the "current far left" supports authoritarianism, so not the opposite, just different flavor of the same side.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

From a Canadian instance, really? This shit is so frustrating to see. The whole two party nonsense that this bullshit pushes is exactly why the usa is in the mess they are in now.

No, people don't have to "pick a side" the ones who think in terms of teams are our enemy.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is not there are two sides. The problem is that there is only one side with 2 parties with the rest left unrepresented.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, both are too loud and impeding the centrist ability to go back to Brunch lmao

Brunch: May or may not include stuffing their own pockets

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago

Social democrats are what centrists actually are and they're generally on board.

"Centrists" tho

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