Yet another reason to avoid the US as a tourist. Looks like hotels and airlines did not bribe Trump sufficiently.
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Seriously, this is so stupid. I'm never setting foot in US soil ever again.
People are already boycotting the us, they don't need another reason.
Tourism is only down 30% or so. So maybe they do need more reasons.
I can't believe it's so little. Do they not know what's happening here?
People are into sunk costs and book well in advance. A lot of that 30% is no-money-back cancellations.
Wait until you see next year.
Ok so if I have to travel to the US for work, I will now require my employer to give me a burner phone with a burner number.
How will they prove that I have any social media history?
It depends on their relationship with the social media companies. There's a good chance companies like Meta have already given the authorities a lot of data on their users. US law enforcement might already know about some of your accounts based on your identity, and then claiming you have none might not work well.
Have you heard about 'age verification' to 'protect the children'? You too will be age verified. They will know all your accounts. That's the whole point of age verification. It is to eliminate anonymity.
I am well aware of the bullshit that the politicians are using abused kids to push through.
If you can't prove Social Media history, you don't get in, they arrest you, and deport you without due process to a life sentence in an El Salvador torture prison where you'll never be heard from again.
Just tell your employer you're not going.
My employer issues us with a wiped laptop that we can restore from cloud storage over our VPN once we're in-country. Before we return, we back it up and scrub it again. When I go to the US, I always bring a low-functioning burner phone as well.
How will they prove that I have any social media history?
Hard to say what the US government knows, or admits to knowing, about your social media usage. I almost completely stopped using social media a few years ago, except for Lemmy, and overwrote all my posts with lorem ipsum, as well as never having accessed it before that without using a VPN and doing some other obfuscation, so it'd take some effort to associate me with anything but some boring Facebook and LinkedIn updates I maintain so that certain people can still get in touch with me.
The US are really working hard to get prohibition, 30's great depression, and McCarthyism all at once.
I don't even remember all the reddit account I had in the previous 5 years
Off to El Salvador with you!
I feel sorry for anyone who has to go for work; I imagine tourists will choose another place to go.
A lot of places are finding workarounds in order to not deal with this and potentially open up serious legal avenues. I know my company is actively avoiding sending anyone here from anywhere else because of shit like this.
We have special cell phones for travel to China and the US. However all travel to those hellholes has to be approved by the CEO and will only be approved of it is absolutely necessary for contract negotiations.
You think it's going to stop there? US citizens will soon have to do the same, or be on the no fly list.
It's like getting banned from smacking my own balls with a hammer.
Oh noes!
"In addition to social media histories, Customs and Border Protection would add other new data collection fields, including email addresses and telephone numbers used in the last five years, as well as the addresses and names of family members, the notice reads."
Wtf I was planning to visit NYC but this is crazy man.
We have already postponed our Disney trip until the cheeto is gone.
I am prepared to go to Europe or Japan instead though if America can't figure its issues out.
I don't know why anyone is still visiting the Untied States but I hope this deters them
And I suppose I'll continue my plan of staying the hell away until this administration is long gone
This feels pretty hard to enforce, are they gonna let people self select what they provide or are they perhaps going to give a list of services to give accounts for? The latter would have me looking either like a ghost that disappeared about 7 years ago (for most public social media) or one that disappeared about 3 years ago (if Reddit is included)
What happens to people who don't use social media at all? Are they going to be treated with suspicion?
Ha! I deleted my Facebook account more than 5 years ago.
Like I would ever want to visit the US under Trump to begin with.
If I'm not mistaken, people who said they don't have any are beeing held for questioning and interrogations, or maybe even denied access. I vaguely remember reading an article about this a while back, so it may not help you as much as you think.
They can (how long can they hold you based on suspicion alone?) and will cause you a lot of trouble if they don't like what you give them.
This is what I've been thinking about. What do they do with people that intentionally avoid social media? Is it simply presumed they're hiding something? To that end, would it make sense to run a 'fake' social media account where they just post and share the most politically neutral/milquetoast memes and commentary just so there's something in their history? I have always disliked the idea that one simply has to interact with social media or else be labeled an outcast/weirdo/suspicious person.
It feels like it comes from the same school of thought that the Internet and/or computers need to be used for everything...i don't like the way society continues moving away from "real" methods of paying bills and handling important personal affairs by replacing the old ways with "better" online alternatives. There are definitely benefits to both approaches, i just don't like when a "paper option" gets eliminated entirely in favor of electronic.
Just having a senior moment over here, please forgive my rambling 👴
Lol yeah just keep pushing people away you fascist fucks.
Your world is closing in, and soon a cross hair will be in visible.
The history you follow is your doom.
I guess I'm going have to get some sort of Social Media account that I don't currently use, and keep up with fake postings, just so I have something to show the Redhats when they stop my on the street and say "Ihre papiere, bitte!"
Wow. Even China doesn't do that.
edit Might be that they don't need to get it from you
I've been sending emails to hotel companies and urging them to oppose this. I urge you to contact your congresspeople and also companies in the travel, hospitality and tourism industry and demand they oppose this policy and more broadly ask them to stand up to Trump because he's causing people to rightfully boycott the US.
Also to everyone who is boycotting the US thank you so so much, I'm really grateful and as are so many Americans who also hate what the Trump regime is doing. The more people who boycott the more pressure it will put on companies to finally stand up against the Trump regime.
🤦🏻♀️ What about the people who don't use social media? Or have used social media for less than 5 years?
Or people who disclose a suspiciously wholesome 5 years of social media use? Or use social media platforms that allow backdated posts - how well are those going to be scrutinised?
Why am I even asking? This is all so stupid. People only want to travel to places where they won't be immediately grilled on what they think of the dictator. (...Out of curiosity, what's the process like for North Korea? Strictly for comparison.)
None of you better come here. I'm not saying this because I don't want you here, I'm saying it because we are literally on fire right now. We have a lot of finding out to do.
More and more non-usa folks no longer want to see Mickey Mouse, Hollywood or the one-armed bandits.
More realistically: tourists will just stop coming here.
Maybe that's the intent?
Chill bro, we didn't need another reason not to visit. We got it.
Or, and hear me out on this, he can fuck right off.
Then again I'm not the target for this type of tyrannical despotism because there's absolutely no chance I'd ever willingly visit that place.
This is our daily reminder that the Republican party has revoked the US Constitution in its entirety.
Wow. Next year's World Cup is going to be either the biggest debacle, or played to empty stadiums (in the USA anyway). What a complete and utter fuck up.
Lol - looks like my old man is never getting to the US. He posts at least 1 meme a day on Facebook that comedically shits on Trump. It's become something of an obsession.
Meanwhile, my brother-in-law is hoping to get to Boston with my nephew to watch Scotland play at the world cup. He's been frantically un-liking dad's posts and deleting his own for days.
I'll start creating and selling accounts.
