And so it begins. Abandon all progressive ideas to appeal to the "centrist", only to lose to the fascist again. I hate it here.
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Gavin never supported progressive ideals?
Eh, early in his term he did a bunch of good stuff, it's just rightly overshadowed by the bad stuff.
No surprise to anyone who's been paying attention to what he does instead of what he says.
At this point in time I'm pretty sure you would win in a landslide if you ran on taxing billionaires. Is being greedy a requirement to be a politician in the US?
If you're not greedy, the billionaires won't fund your campaign. Then you lose.
At some point the left needs to realize that sitting out voting doesn’t work. Yes the candidate sucks from your political stance but they are better than the alternative and it gives a platform from which to push left. This has been the playbook of the right for decades and is why they have been so successful in shifting the Overton window. They vote in any circumstance even if the candidate isn’t as right leaning as they would prefer but to them at least it’s not a dem.
Edit: to be clear I’m all for taxing billionaires and corporations far more.
We still have ample time to get someone better than Gavin.
Your vote is your voice. A vote is earned not expected.
As a permanent resident who cannot vote but pays 6 figures in taxes. VOTE. Some of us aren’t so lucky
I'll never vote for Newsom. I've stated that on here before. He's anti-trans and deep in corporate pockets. The Getty family owns him.
So you’re ok with Trump. Got it. How’s his stance on Trans people?
Here we go again... "If you don't vote for Biden you support Trump!" ... "If you don't vote for Harris you support Trump!" ... "If you don't vote for X you support Trump!"
I wonder how that works in solid color states. If you vote third party in a solid blue state, does that mean a vote for red? Or is it actually a vote for blue if you ask for a red voter's opinion on the matter?
Going off the theory that your vote is actually for the person a particular voter opposes, does that mean your protest vote is actually determined by the popular vote? For example, if you protest voted the 2024 election, does that mean you actually voted blue because red won the popular vote? Assuming that every color says the protest vote voted for their enemies.
Staunch third party voter reporting in. Voting for the big two feels like an obligation given to me by the powerful. Third party is vastly more exciting!
Every action is a vote for something. It never hurts to consider the consequences.
By all means push forward a better candidate than Newsom. And I hope you succeed. But if you don't, and it turns out that in the end it's going to be either Newsom or Vance (or even Trump), then who would you rather have?
Every vote is a push in one direction or the other in the US. You can vote to push right, you can vote to push left, or you can avoid voting and let the rest of us decide for you. But the last time a bunch of leftists weren't thrilled with the options, the electorate voted to push right. From your valid gripes against Newsom, I'm gonna guess that was not what you wanted.
Come election day, one of the two candidates is guaranteed to become president. You cannot stop that. I won't try to say Newsom is ideal or even a good candidate. I'd love to see someone else run instead. But if you want an even more leftist candidate next time, the country has to show they'll tolerate movement in that direction, and that means not electing another fucking Republican.
This guy fuckmurders the homeless while whoring for billionaires. Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
His sales pitch is centered around "I'm not a Republican^tm^!"
Most people on this planet don't lose a second of sleep or shed one tear if the poor die, including the poor.
On the assumption that we are able to vote at the time, if it's between him and <insertAuthoritarianDouchebagHere>, I'll vote for him.
However, I'd imagine that most of my fellow U. S. Citizens are well aware that this sheister is not some sort of "friend" of the poor and the middle class.
I'd vote for him over Trump, but he has not won me over by any stretch, just like Harris, Biden, and (Hillary) Clinton.
A fun PR person sending tweets is insufficient to win my vote. I wouldn't be voting for him, I'd be voting against Trump, as has been the case each time Trump has been on the ballot.
Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?
Same reason they voted for Hillary and Joe.
They don't want things to change.
Liberals gonna liberal.
I'd still rather have a capitalist than a fascist.
Scratch a capitalist and you'll find a fascist. But yeah gun to my head, I'll take it. Figuratively speaking, at least for now.
Bang on.
But milquetoast is losing. People want change. The time to start thinking about alternatives to him is now.
I think AOC will have a better chance frankly. Particularly if Memdani's momentum continues.
A lefty needs to win a governor seat in a major state first to continue that momentum to the White House. That will give the average blue voter the confidence to vote for a social democrat or socialist in the primaries.
Yeah that's the thing about capitalists: They come as a package with fascists.
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years. They are why there’s been no meaningful opposition. Newsome doesn’t believe in anything beyond a vague allegiance to capital interests and his own career advancement. Sometimes that ethos will cause him to say some good things, and sometimes he’ll do the opposite. But, he’ll never, ever meaningfully change anything at all.
The best case scenario with a Newsom presidency is that he will preside over a temporary slowing of the collapse, while sowing the seeds of further escalation by the white-identity, religious authoritarian dominionists that are flourishing under trump. Democrats, Americans, and the world deserve much more than him.
I really hope that Democrats are starting to realize that corporate captured performance artists like Gavin Newsom are why we have been lurching rightward into fascism for 40+ years.
So there are two possible interpretations for why the Democrats are so stubbornly useless:
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It's a big club and you ain't in it.
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You can't get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.
Either way there's no "realizing" anything.
Slimey as fuck I hate that guy
I mean c’mon, let’s not get too carried away, next thing ya know they’ll be wanting to tax the billionaires or something.
This and he was married to that thing Don Jr. was with.
Yuck.
Eww explains a lot
Fuck you sleeze bag
And Newsom is different from Trump, how exactly? Dude hosted Charlie Kirk and Steve Banon on his podcast, that he wasn't required to do, and didn't question them, just nodded along like Joe Rogan.
Newsom is shaping up to be a DNC approved Trump at this rate. Loves Nazis, hates taxes, claims to love the real America, hated COVID protections being applied, doesn't care about brown people... Fucker needs to lose in the primary quickly. Assuming we get a fair one.
If Newsom wins the primary, I'm out. I'd rather fight fascism on the streets than play this stupid ass good cop, bad cop game for another round. Fuck you, Democrats. Learn.
Please let's not gear up to support this guy.
He's the controlled opposition to make sure someone who actually cares about the working class doesn't get the nomination, again.