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[–] minnow@lemmy.world 128 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I mean, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I can believe the science AND ALSO engage in behaviors it says are unhealthy for me.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 36 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I have night light mode on my phone. So I’m good!!!!!!!

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 7 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

That's not a scientific thing tho ! Proven to have no effect in fact.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 25 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Apple wouldn’t lie to me.

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[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

Proven*

Samples sizes are always small, confounding variables poorly controlled and control groups often contaminated.

Long term effect are also poorly studied.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago

Proven to have no effect in fact.

I thought the blue light was the problem.

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[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 32 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I get why you shouldn't use it before bed but why not after waking up? If it keeps you awake shouldn't it help you wake up?

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

that info comes from Julie Morgenstern, an organizing & productivity consultant, so I dunno how scientific it is...

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 25 points 18 hours ago

Also, it's forbes

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

God damn, I can't find any solid research that backs up the claims of it being bad for you, granted I didn't do a thorough search, but I did still look and came out empty handed.

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[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 7 points 18 hours ago

That's a good way to start my work day then because I'm constantly moving from one fire to another.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Just because I don't follow the recommendation doesn't mean I disbelieve it. Science also says I should eat better and exercise more and do less drugs 🤷‍♂️

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

It’s actually neutral on the subject of what you should do. That is for medicine and public health policy, or even personal choice.

[–] Enzy@feddit.nu 4 points 3 hours ago

Drugs are made with science

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 22 points 17 hours ago

Just because I believe doesn't mean I listen.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Me using phones : wow, I can sleep at 1am, great.
Me "just going to bed" : great, it's 4am and I'm still overthinking my shortcomings!

[–] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 8 points 17 hours ago

Yep. Numbing the thoughts away with constant input helps the body gain the upper hand and let me go to sleep.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah this is me as well. I just overthink for hours without a distraction. Give me a phone or something to watch and I’m out in 15 minutes honestly. I feel bad because I know I’m probably degrading my sleep but…as least I’m sleeping.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

Science is totally right here, I have no doubt. It's just... that I have zero regard for my own health.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

Small rant, but people saying they believe in science is a pet peeve of mine. Belief has no place olin science.

You can't "believe" in science any more than you can "know" in your religion.

Belief and faith are the realm of the unknowable. Knowledge and fact are the realm of science.

[–] Aremel@lemmy.zip 38 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

When people say they "believe" in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.

I'm sure you can find the flaw in doing so, as science is constantly being debunked. A good example that comes to mind is the alpha wolf theory.

It can be argued that while science strives to be in the realm of knowledge and fact, it doesn't always succeed in doing so. At least not in the first rounds of study. And I think that's what its strength is; being able to correct itself in the pursuit of knowledge and fact. All the same, science is run by humans, and humans are fallible. But despite that fallibility, some people are willing to put their faith into scientists because of their constant pursuit for the truth. Even if what they said yesterday got debunked today, it doesn't make yesterday's scientists any lesser. It only means we are all better for it.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

When people say they “believe” in science, I think they mean they are putting their faith into the scientists performing the science. That whatever conclusion they come to after an experiment or study is the correct conclusion.

That's literally what they mean, where "scientists" may as easily mean real scientists as charlatans.

It's still completely antagonistic to how science is practiced (if scientists behaved like that, they would never learn anything), and something closer to religion than science.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago

I am not smart enough to come to my own conclusions about a lot of science, so yes I must believe what the collective scientific community asserts, because I have no other way to prove things that happen. For me, that means putting my faith in their accuracy. So yes, I believe in science.

It should also be noted that there are people out there that treat science as a religion; that it is infallible, and cannot be changed, and to suggest otherwise is blasphemy. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/believe

"To consider to be true or honest"

I don't know what you think believe means but you're wrong

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

You can believe that an answer can be found scientifically. You can have faith that what you see with your eyes, and that what happens during experimentation is accurate and not a fluke or trick of some sort.

Just because religion dominates most belief, and there are strong religious groups that hold that belief and faith are binary with no wiggle room whatsoever does not mean that it's the only way they can function. On can still test faith and belief without losing them, and changing those beliefs to what holds more truth.

Holding that that belief and faith have no part in science... is a belief in and of itself. A particularly contradictory one at that.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Knowledge is itself a justified true belief. Also, the scientific method is the best way of obtaining empirical knowledge, but the idea that empirical evidence is true is still a belief, and not even that justified. Also also, science is constantly trying to prove itself wrong. It's unlikely that what we think now based on scientific methods will be the same we think in the future.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Me trying not to murder my partner who I love very much when her phone suddenly blasts out Instagram brain-rot at 11pm and I’m trying to maintain a vaguely healthy bedtime ritual.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 22 hours ago

What's this about right after waking up? (I may have struck this from memory)

[–] kubica@fedia.io 10 points 21 hours ago

My circadian whatever has had all my life to get used to it. I don't accept complaints now.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

If you really wanna ruin your day, apparently late night eating and skipping breakfast also fucks with the rhythm. The body has a few things it uses to keep the internal clock going, not just light.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't know my mom was on Lemmy...

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[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When I wake up all I can think about is brushing my teeth and eating breakfast

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

What if I'm used to eating late?

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome… light has no effect on me. Checkmate scientists!

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

I have a strong feeling I do too, inherited from my mom (both of us self-diagnosed). I also appreciate you calling it a syndrome and not a disorder. It's only a "disorder" because society decided to only accommodate one type of circadian rhythm. Humans have needed people on night watch forever, my money is that this was an advantageous phenomenon.

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

I’d rather spend one hour on my phone before bed than three trying and failing to get my brain to shut up ¯\(ツ)

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If's hard to believe when my circadian rhythm was still fucked long before I had a screen I could take to bed.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Fine! I'll use my laptop instead.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago

I've been trying to talk my wife into dropping the brightness to 50% for years. Her phone is so bright it keeps ME up at night on the other side of the bed. I have to set up a light shield to go to sleep :P

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago

I know it's bad for me.

I'm just too tired to care.

[–] EtherTide@aussie.zone 6 points 13 hours ago

Don't call me put like this just after I wake up!

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago

Monkey brain need dopamines 🥺

[–] Remotedeck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 hours ago

It's a matter of effort vs reward. Will it make it easier to sleep? Yes. Will it make it easier enough to be worth not using my phone? No.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I need my nebuliser ASMR every morning I have to go to work or I will be very grumpy all day

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