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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 21 points 12 hours ago

This is one area of many where I think Manitoba's Kinew led provincial NDP shines, his inclusion of the rights of French language Manitobans along with the rights of Indigenous.

The language itself I think is not a big deal, Carney fumbled through French 101 again in a matter of months to become Prime Minister. But I do think if the NDP wants to make inroads with Québec's Bloc and Liberal voters they need to be more in touch with Québec culture.

I think the federal NDP still has more work to do in self-reflection. I hope they make use of this opportunity. Even if you don't like BC's NDP, hopefully you can appreciate that Eby is listening to genuine internal criticism from unions and labour activists, BCFN and environmental supporters within his party during the review.

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not only do Quebecers not care about this as much as people think they do, but also whoever wins will presumably learn French, like Carney did. This is such a nothingburger and a lame thing to focus on when there's more important issues.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I don't know Quebec enough but I feel that a leader with a genuine improve-the-lives message along with an apology for bad French might not do too badly. People like being honest and they tend to take note when your policy is about to make their lives better.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

While that's definitely a weakness, I think the NDP can be an effrctive delivery vehicle for material improvements for Canadians even with that weakness. If the NDP gets a significant part of the working class vote from the cons, they'll be a major power holder in any configuration. That's because the con vote would diminish, therefore eliminating the "NDP-LPC vote split gets the cons in" problem.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Look, if Canadians were willing to vote in the Liberals then I think we can get over some of this stuff, and that’s coming from someone who’s learning French in Montréal despite it being a place one can be very anglpphone in.

I’ll give a shit when the standards are consistent and when Canadians can finally accept that the Liberals are a conservative party and them being between the far-right and our main progressive party does make their shitty behaviour any more “balanced”.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

Honnêtement je m'en câlice. Tant que les intérêts des travailleurs sont mieux représentés au gouvernement. On a élu Mark Carney qui ne parlait pas très bien le français non plus, donc....

[–] Kyle@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

If the US had a law that all presidents must speak french, Trump never would have gotten in.

If there was such a law in Canada it wouldn't change anything because Pierre Pollieve has shown you don't have to be Trump to be a lot like him. And he speaks French just fine.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 5 hours ago

The population of French only speakers is tiny.