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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago) (2 children)
(* (+ 2 5) (- 8 5))

Hope some LISP can clear this up

[–] yboutros@infosec.pub 1 points 1 minute ago

Is this a meme? Shouldn't it be

( + 2 ( * 5 ( - 8 5 ) ) )
[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 minutes ago

This is called "prefix notation". The operator comes before the operands and every expression goes in parentheses.

For instance you could write:

(+ 1 2 3 4)

Which would evaluate to 10.

This syntax is from a family of programming languages usually called LISP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_(programming_language)

[–] nomorebillboards@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

But 2 + 5 + 8 - 5 is 16 - 5 which is 11

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Gotta distribute:

2+(8+5)-(5+5)

2+13-0

15

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Still not how distribution works. That would be:

2+((8 * 5)-(5 * 5))

2+(40-25)

2+(15)

17

Anything other than 17 is wrong. No matter how you go about your multiplication step.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

You're trolling, but no, if you distribute you get the same result:

2 + 5(8 - 5) =

2 + (5 × 8) + (5 × -5) =

2 + (40) + (-25) =

2 + 40  - 25 = 2 + 15 = 17

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 0 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (2 children)

Its because its:

2+5×(8−5)

My calculator app automatically added it when typing in what was in the image and "2+5×(8−5)" does equal 17.

It's absolutely the fault of the person making the social media media post for not writing it properly and confusing people.

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[–] Sertou@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Or it simply could be that I haven't needed to concern myself with the order of operations more than a dozen times since high school. Even when working as a web coder it was so seldom necessary that I can't recall a single example.

The US education system was still pretty decent when I was in middle and high school in the 1980s, so we definitely covered this in algebra.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

I haven't had to do this shit in 20 years since college. Literally nothing like this in my career path, I was shit at math in high school and college,, so I didn't even remember that there was a multiplication there since it isn't explicit. Oh well.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

it's

a badly

written

math

problem

Seriously, every time this comes up and everyone makes a huge deal out of it, I keep thinking, "none of the people writing these better be teachers." You have to be more clear than this.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 46 seconds ago

how should it have been written?

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

I think it's reasonable if you consider the kind of physical situation it might represent.

You visit a farm and there are 2 unpackaged apples. There are also 5 packages that hold 8 apples but 5 have been removed from each. How many apples are there?

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today -2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That's so evil and subtle. It took me multiple attempts to figure it out. You have to have quite the sharp eye to realize: no, you do not stop at calculating the numbers in parantesis first. You don't add the resulting numbers, there is no +/- operator, so the number in parantesis is the power of the number before it. But wait! if You calculated 2+5 = 7 * 3 and hot 21, you are wrong. Remember that multiplication goes first, so it's: 2+5(8-5) = 2+5*3=2+15=17

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