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Chat Control: EU lawmakers finally agree on the voluntary scanning of your private chats (www.techradar.com)
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[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the face of a corrupt politician.

[โ€“] sp3ctre@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

This is the face watching every message sent to your girlfriend/boyfriend.

[โ€“] dieTasse@feddit.org 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For everyone who thinks its good its voluntary, its not like that, you have to read this... https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/reality-check-eu-council-chat-control-vote-is-not-a-retreat-but-a-green-light-for-indiscriminate-mass-surveillance-and-the-end-of-right-to-communicate-anonymously/

[โ€“] bobo1900@startrek.website 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm sure that requires that both parties agree right? I don't want other people to choose for me if my chats with them are controlled.

How can this ageee with GDPR?

Sigh...

[โ€“] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

GDPR doesnt apply to data being processed by individuals or groups for personal use, the "household exemption".

If you're part of a conversation then the other person also "owns" the conversation and can decide what to do with it.

[โ€“] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But the moment that data is voluntarily sent to the government, doesn't it stop being "for personal use"? The premises for which that data was shared were broken.

[โ€“] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but it depends on why the data was shared and who it was sent to.

So for example (assuming you're in the UK), you discuss a crime. The other party sends a record of your communication to the police, or HMRC or whatever.

Ordinarily under Article 14 of UK GDPR, an organisation must inform a data subject that they have received their data from elsewhere, why they have it, what they intend to do with it etc.

However, there are numerous exemptions in the Data Protection Act (particularly Part 3 - Law Enforcement) and Schedules 2, 3 and 4 that would exempt an organisation from even telling you they have your data in the first place.

However, the "personal use" aspect still stands for the originator of the data. Don't think of personal use as an exemption. It isnt, its more accurate to say that it is beyond the scope of UK GDPR, ie it isn't covered at all. There is no exemption because one isnt needed, GDPR simply does not cover data being processed for personal reasons.

Think of another example. We work together and in confidence you tell me about a medical condition. If you told me because we are friends, then I'm free to tell whoever I want (corporate policies aside). However if you told me because I am your manager, then when I received the information I was acting in an official capacity on behalf of the organisation. Now if I chose to share that information with Occupational Health for instance, that woild probably be lawful. However if I emailed your colleagues and told them anything other than "he will be off work because he is ill" then that woild be a breach that the company would be liable for.

Hope that helps?

[โ€“] stray@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't it pretty commonly legal to record and disclose any conversation to which you're a party?

[โ€“] aramis87@fedia.io 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To voluntarily "opt out", you'll have to click through five different pages of confusing legalese, on each page looking for the light grey link on a white background, only to find the final link dead. You'll have to fight Google's AI in order to get a working link. Eventually, you'll find the page.

The final link to preserve your privacy will have five double and one single negative; the "confirm your decision" button will have three more that appear to contradict the earlier question; and the "are you really really sure" message will contradict both.

The final message will say "Thank you for your submission. Please allow six to eight weeks for your request to be processed. While we will comply with your request, we cannot guarantee that our fifty partners will also abide by your wishes. Have a nice day!"

[โ€“] starlinguk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The EU, now the US mark two.

[โ€“] basic_user@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

This whole thing is so infuriating. It just won't go away and in the end we are all going to be surveiled no matter what. Privacy will be gone and it's just disgusting. Peter Hummelgaard and whoever puppeteers him needs as much negative attation about this case as possible. The media is hardly covering it at all. Fight for your privacy!