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[–] ryokimball@infosec.pub 136 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

They are outright admitting their orders are unlawful?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 60 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Nah.

Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump's orders are lawful, because he's the president and a president can do anything.

So their issue would be that saying that isn't true, is unlawful.

Which is obviously hypocritical because they acted like Biden and Obama were Stalin and Mao level authoritarians and multiple sherrifs and other red state officials flat out refused to follow orders from the Fed.

By their logic now, all those people shouldve been hung.

But when Trump's out of office they'll change their tune again

[–] Red0ctober@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

If it weren't for double standards, the Republicans would have none whatsoever

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Our standards are the best, folks. They're so good, they call them, you know what they call them? I know you know, the lying media knows, but folks they call them "double standards". Can you believe it? Standards so good they're double. And listen, when we put America First, our standards will triple, even quadruple.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

God damnit, I could hear that comment.

[–] Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

this was just missing a "clean-beautiful-double standards"

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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump’s orders are lawful, because he’s the president and a president can do anything.

To be fair, the supreme court recently said exactly that. We literally have a king now.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

They're markedly leaving that word out when they discuss this.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 112 points 13 hours ago (12 children)

The fuck is wrong with Americans?

If any other president had said the things he said over the past couple of months, the country would have exploded and a president either legally or through mass protest removed from office.

What's so special about this orange nutjob?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I wish I could fucking tell you. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 15 points 12 hours ago

It's been the downfall of empires before, and America isnt anything special. Just unchecked and unchallenged humans greed and corruption taking its next logical steps.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 48 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There have been tons of massive protests, the average American doesn't support this crap and they're doing what they can

The question should be the fuck is wrong with America's police officers, service members, judges, and lawmakers and other elected officials

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

He doesn't care about your protests. He literally created a video of himself shitting on them and declaring himself king. It works in functioning democracies, but walking down the street with a sign will not stop a fascist intent on absolute power.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago

What’s so special about this orange nutjob?

Nothing, really. He's not doing anything other piece of trash authoritarians haven't done before. And he's not doing it as effectively as many of them did.

What's special is that we live in a country whose populace is so ignorant and hateful that a high enough percentage of the population supports this basic ass bitch because he says basic ass hateful shit that he has remained protected by them.

The issue isn't Trump. Our society could have easily kept him just a whiny little rich bitch like all the other whiny little rich bitches. The issue is our society because we didn't.

Believe me. There is nothing special about this loser.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

He has done it so much and gotten away with it, it's been normalized.

January 6th (aka, the insurrection) should have been a wake up call for everyone. A lot of people don't care about their country or God or whatever else they claim. Many just care about community.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago

A country full of stupid, small-minded, selfish, arrogant, angry, racist, misogynists elect a stupid, small-minded, selfish, arrogant, angry, racist, misogynist... How could this have happened?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

the jiu-jitsu propaganda machine is coming for everyone. Watch for the signs: nutjobbery, incompetence, fascism.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Americans in flyover country are really really fucking stupid, yet are very well funded gov subsidies. Evil exploits this major US weakness.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago

Nothing is a special about the Cheeto Man. He is not a means to some end, as though his specialty is bringing about some change which nobody else could have. Cheeto Man is an end in himself. He’s the result of where we have been headed for a long time. Circumstances were right for a man like Cheeto Man, and now here he is. It’s like when the weather man tells you circumstances are just right for rain — that means it’s probably going to rain.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

I think part of the problem is people assume he's going to die soon and so aren't motivated to try and remove him from office. But even if he dies soon, I fear things will get worse. JD Vance is potentially just as bad or worse. And other people involved, like Stephen Miller, could eventually become president if nothing is done to prosecute all the people involved in this clownshow

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 80 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

When is the majority of this country going to grasp that we are dealing with an actual, real life traitor?

Is it going to be one of those things where it isn't generally recognized until way after the fact when historians/teachers/students are studying the time period?

It's pretty fucking obvious.

He INCITECD AN INSURRECTION. He is ADVOCATING FOR HANGING POLITICIANS FOR ADHERING TO THE CONSTITUTION.

[–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe when he sets off a nuke in Chicago … but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 61 points 9 hours ago

The only people who would get mad about telling the troops to refuse illegal orders, are the people who plan to issue illegal orders.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 53 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Trump: “Hang them for sedition!”

Commentator: “That is of course nonsense. The President doesn’t have the authority to …”

Supreme court: “As the President is a sovereign, he has absolute authority to issue death sentences for any reason” (6-3 majority)

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Yeap and there go. Buy ammo ladies and gentlemen.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 43 points 12 hours ago

Quiet, piggy.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

For context:

Half a dozen members of Congress who previously served in the military or intelligence community are urging service members and intelligence officials to disobey illegal orders that might be issued by President Donald Trump’s administration. Democratic lawmakers Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Sen. Mark Kelly, Rep. Jason Crow, Rep. Maggie Goodlander, Rep. Chris Deluzio and Rep. Chrissy Houlahan said the “threats to our Constitution” are coming “from right here at home,” and repeatedly urged the military and intelligence community to “refuse illegal orders.”

The video was posted on twitter, but I'm attaching it below.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 32 points 14 hours ago

and Dems need to tone down their violent rhetoric btw

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

if they had balls every dem politicians who could run for next election should say that they will pardon anyone who gets arrested or in trouble for disobeying illegal orders.

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Set aside Dems for a moment. When will the media give any of these scandals any deserving attention? Bush, Obama, Biden got raked by the media for weeks for the slightest misspeak

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 13 points 8 hours ago

They obviously won't... All the American media outlets are being consolidated under right wing ownership. To the extent we ever had fair reporting, that's over.

They are all complicit, however I cannot comment on that, because I have not watched tv or followed main stream media in a decade. I have ground news, which is great (I do have some complaints about it, it isn't perfect but no point venting here). So I personally cannot complain about them too much.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Yeah they do that because the people who own the media know two things:

  1. The Dems will get criticised by both people left of them and people right of them, so raking them over the coals generates a lot of outrage which equals to clicks and views.

  2. They can use this public perception pressure to ensure they keep passing policies that are, if not aligned with, don't affect the super rich owners and donators. Because the media owners can always dial up the jingoism and get the republicans elected again at the subsequent end of second term election.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

So here we are...

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But boy howdy should they have.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

And Reddit banned me for 7 days when I said this dude should get the death penalty.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 hours ago

If you haven't noticed yet, that's because it is a tool of the regime that exists to pacify and propagandize its enormous userbase.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 hours ago
[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 13 points 13 hours ago

Might want to check yourself there Blowjob Rosenberg

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

drump is going to get what mussolini got if we keep heading in this direction

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

krasnov out here trying to build a bigger distraction

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

If anyone should be getting hanged for anything, it's Pedonald for all of his many crimes, including plotting a coup while stoking an insurrection.

But it's always projection with the conservatives.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

He is afraid that people explain to the military the current state of the law? Like he hoped he could order them to do illegal things, and they would compüly, not knowing any better?

BTW: The Nuremberg trials started on this day 80 years ago. I hope you guys prepare your version of it then Trump is over.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago

Just more sensationalism to keep everyone’s mind off the Epstein files if you ask me.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago
[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Trump is a lunatic

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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