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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 71 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

They can’t be released if there is an ongoing investigation; an investigation into democrats that was just magically ordered by Trump a short time ago, even though there was supposedly nothing to investigate due to it being a democrat hoax.

[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 53 points 13 hours ago

The Epstein files don't exist, but if they did they aren't that bad, but if they are it's no big deal cause I'm not in them, but if I am it's fake news, and if it's not it's because Democrats are in them and it's all a hoax, and if I did blow bubba he probably deserved it.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

2025’s “I want to, but I’m being audited.”

He’ll try do this until people eventually run out of gas.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Based on his health he's gonna run out of gas before the public does.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Let's hope we can stay solvent while Tangerine Palpatine crashes the economy.

[–] wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If he keeps eating McDonald's, he's going to have an endless supply of gas.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

That’s why he tweets so much, he’s gotta relieve the pressure.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Even with an investigation ongoing...

Obviously they can release evidence. It's an incredibly stupid plan and only someone completely ignorant of our legal system would release evidence pre-trial...

That being said, this admin has done it so many times I've legitimately lost count, more than a handful of times.

But trump will have at least one Senator filibuster this, which is why I was really hoping they got rid of it.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

No, he did not have a single Senator holding it up it passed with unanimous consent.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Honestly, he doesn't need to, All he has to do is have Congress go into adjournment on the 10th day of the bill being in his hand. And then when he doesn't sign it, it's supposed to go back to Congress. However, if Congress is adjourned, the bill gets pocket vetoed without the ability to be brought up again.

I'm partially expecting with how much support has changed so drastically that that's what the current plan is. Just have Congress go into adjournment. It prevents the house from bringing it up again as the bill gets fully tossed if I understand it correctly

although I guess that is under the statement that he can get the house to close again

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 54 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Does everyone forget the entire justice department working overtime to redact trumps name?

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Hopefully somebody leaks the full unredacted version.

Or better yet they do the stupid PDF editing where a simple copy/paste retrieves the full text.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I mean they left worse traces in the video edit. Like these aren’t the best and brightest working on this.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 8 points 10 hours ago

Or its malicious compliance.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I imagine they’ve physically destroyed anything good by now but who knows 🤷‍♀️

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

I'm gonna take the title at face value and assume they will be released to Trump. After the senate sends the bill.

[–] Chef@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

How has nobody mentioned the term “pocket veto” yet? He can just stick it in a drawer and never sign it. His lackeys in congress can recess within the 10-day time period (you know, Thanksgiving) and then it’s dead. They have to reintroduce the bill and go through it all over again.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 11 points 10 hours ago

If this doesn't get released, it becomes a bigger deal. Trying to pocket veto this would backfire.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

No one is going to shut up about this, though. It's the only issue that has survived the 24 hour news cycle to keep haunting Trump

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It seems like there could be a chance that this gets a pocket veto if I understand it correctly.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The deal with a pocket veto is that the President has ten days to either sign or veto the bill -- but a veto is really returning it to Congress, unsigned. Congress can then try to get enough votes to overturn the veto.

If he does nothing with it (sign it or return it to Congress) within 10 days, then that counts as having signed it, and the bill becomes law.

However, that last bit only applies if Congress was able to accept the returned bill that whole time. If the Congress had already adjourned, and could not accept the returned bill, then the bill does not become law.

However, in recent years it has been made clear that Congress never really fully adjourns until early January, but then immediately reestablishes itself, so it is never fully adjourned. Even while the House was not in session during the recent government shutdown, they held short mini-sessions to make sure that the body never actually formally adjourned. Furthermore, Congress has made arrangements to accept returned bills from the President even when they are not in session (but have not formally adjourned for the term). So Congress would have to go of its way to adjourn early for the pocket veto to work.

tldr: a pocket veto won't work unless Congress shuts itself down.

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 4 points 12 hours ago

Thanks for that insight. I wasn’t sure how the holiday factored into the interpretation.

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, sticking it in a drawer might be their tactic, but congress would have to not be in session for it to work. If it was unanimously approved by both the House and the Senate, it would normally mean there are enough votes to override a veto, but if he did actually veto I wouldn’t put it past them not to hold an override vote.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

deny, delay, deflect

We are in the delay phase still I think.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago

Trump gets no say