This just in: single-issue activist explains why one issue is the only issue that should be considered in future planning.
this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2025
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Would rather deal with China than the US.
As someone from the U.S. I support this. But also, learn from China and work with them in the obvious productive ways, but don’t like… trust them.
Posted this already in another thread, but it fits here, too.
We should improve democracies rather than collaborating with just another country that has turned to fascist rule
Seriously. Of course that means fewer jobs and higher home prices.
I understand your frustration, but that's like getting out of bed with Satan and getting into bed with Satan's twin brother.
It isn't going to work out better for you.
I don't understand your argument unless you believe we should not have anything to do with the US as well. If we are fully prepared to be in bed with US's Satan, we shouldn't have a problem with being in bed with their twin as well. Especially since the only reason we aren't is because Satan said not to.
well unfortunately, it seems only the Satan brothers have some stuff we want/need.
until someone other than the Satan brothers have that stuff, there is little choice for Canada
China hasn’t threatened our countries sovereignty. The US can get fucked.
Has China ever threatened Canada or its sovereignty?
Yes, Canada's security and intelligence agencies have concluded that China has threatened Canada and its sovereignty through various activities, including foreign election interference and transnational repression.
Key instances and forms of these threats include:
Election Interference: A Canadian public inquiry found that China interfered in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections through disinformation campaigns, undisclosed donations to preferred candidates, and other tactics, with the goal of influencing the political landscape.
Transnational Repression: The Chinese government has targeted critics, dissidents, and the broader Chinese community in Canada with surveillance, threats, and smear campaigns, often using individuals' families in China as leverage.
Intimidation of Politicians: Canadian politicians, notably Conservative MP Michael Chong, were targeted by Chinese interference campaigns and subject to intimidation for their criticism of the Chinese government's human rights record.
Arbitrary Detention: The detention of Canadian citizens Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor (known as "the two Michaels") in China following Canada's arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou was widely seen as a use of arbitrary detention for political leverage to pressure Canada. Arctic Ambitions: The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and NATO officials have warned that China's interest and activities in the Canadian Arctic pose a direct threat to the nation's sovereignty in the region.
Cyber Threats: The Communications Security Establishment (CSE) has identified state-sponsored Chinese cyber programs as the greatest strategic cyber threat to Canada, targeting critical infrastructure and intellectual property in key sectors like artificial intelligence and biopharma.
Canadian officials have consistently stated that such activities constitute a threat to national security and sovereignty and "will not be tolerated".
Yes, Canada’s security and intelligence agencies have concluded that China has threatened Canada and its sovereignty through various activities, including foreign election interference and transnational repression.
Which the US has also, very publicly, carried out. On top of actually saying out loud that they would annex us
I don't think anyone is saying China is a saint here... but the USA is no longer, in any way, an ally to Canada
I wouldn't.
We can only speculate about what really goes on in China because they don't have a free press.
Does the USA anymore?
Significantly moreso than China.
US journalists will get punished if they are ever caught sharing footage of what goes on in a factory farm, for example.
Chinese journalists will get punished if they publish anything bad about the CCP.
Canada should deal with other democracies. China isn't a reliable alternative.
That’s all well and good, but China has not threatened the violent annexation of Canada as of yet.
As Mr. Gere rightfully said, no country has ever benefited when collaborating with China. And they have threatened democracies with violence whenever Beijing deemed it appropriate, and so they'll with Canada.
The Chinese government kidnapped a boy in the 90s and still hasn't released him.
Why are governments listening to actors.
It's mentioned in the report and even the title.