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OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, the United States has embarked on a controversial maritime campaign in the Caribbean Sea and Eastern Pacific targeting small Venezuelan and Colombian vessels alleged to be engaged in drug smuggling. Under an asserted “narcoterrorist” deterrence operation, the United States has thus far carried out nineteen lethal strikes on small boats in international waters, killing at least seventy-six people, all undertaken without the transparency, oversight, or legal foundation that normally governs the use of American force.

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To begin with, Venezuela is not small, not simple, and not susceptible to quick, low-cost military outcomes. In geographic and demographic terms alone, Venezuela is enormous. It covers roughly 882,000 square kilometers, making it substantially larger than Ukraine (579,000 sq km) or Texas (696,000 sq km). Its population—estimated to be above 31 million people—is roughly equivalent to current wartime Ukraine and modern Texas. It is a country of sprawling mountains, dense cities, jungles, and industrial corridors where military infrastructure sits interlaced with civilian life. Caracas, Maracaibo, Valencia, and other urban centers are not “surgical strike zones”—they are vast megacities where any attempt to dismantle regime capabilities from the air risks substantial civilian casualties and cascading regional effects.

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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If Trump plays his cards as well as usual it will be a South American Vietnam.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only while MAGA is in office... Which may be until further notice... I fully expect a sane president to pull out and even pay damages, as much as that would suck... And hasn't happened historically... But uNpReCiDeNtEd TiMeS

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Oh you sweet summer child...

This will go on for quite a lot longer. It is not down to a president. This is a mentality of people who have been increasingly mislead

It won't change by replacing presidents. It will need active work and several generations of conscious change before it has any results

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago

I could only hope saner heads would have prevailed, but finding that the military will suck trump's dick on these orders is disgusting. It's not really surprising to me, but it definitely hits the gut.

As for the reversal if we ever get a sane administration in? Well... Fuck me. I never thought I'd see a return to the idiocy of athenian generals in warfare. Just another thing to add to reasons to despise trump and the republican party. At least it's measured in years instead of days.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How about we invade the USA to re-establish democracy there. The poor people deserve better!

The USA would have invaded the USA, to save it, if it hadn't been USA

[–] Ascrod@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

We already have an invasion of the USA by the USA. It's called ICE.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The US has always been fine with fascists. We’ve installed a fair few number of them throughout the globe, particularly in South America.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 12 points 2 days ago

If it were easy, the US would have done it during one of the two dozen coups they have already tried in the past 30 years.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just a quick special military operation, right?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Should only take about three days I reckon.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

they are vast megacities where any attempt to dismantle regime capabilities from the air risks substantial civilian casualties and cascading regional effects.

I wonder where I saw this before. I think it started with B and ended aghdad.

all undertaken without the transparency, oversight, or legal foundation that normally governs the use of American force.

For all the good that did anyone.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

even if it was all easy peasy, who the fuck wants it? Among american people not the asshats in charge. He is just wasting resources left and right while firmly driving out economy into the ground.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Regime change is never not messy. And forced "regime change" always causes a chaos instead.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again with this? We gotta stop putting white people in charge of everything, we never learn shit.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the rich, friend. Skin color isn't the issue, that's their distraction. The internet has fucked them because we can all see it now.

[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Keep making sure more people see it, helping people us open source social media/apps/Linux, and get others active. It takes us all to make this better and many of us are doing