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Things continue to look bleak for the original robot vacuum maker. iRobot’s third-quarter results, released last week, show that revenue is down and “well below our internal expectations due to continuing market headwinds, ongoing production delays, and unforeseen shipping disruptions,” said Gary Cohen, iRobot CEO, in a press release.

This meant they had to spend more cash and are now down to under $25 million. “At this time, the Company has no sources upon which it can draw for additional capital,” said Cohen.

The Roomba manufacturer has been struggling for several years in the face of increased competition from Chinese manufacturers. A sale to Amazon in 2022 looked to be its lifeline; however, regulatory scrutiny scuppered the deal, and the company was left in further turmoil. It laid off over 30 percent of its staff, lost its founder and CEO, Colin Angle, and was left with substantial debt as a result of the fallout.

This year, iRobot launched an entirely new line of robot vacuums, ostensibly to better compete with companies like Roborock, Ecovacs, and Dreame, adding lidar navigation to its line for the first time (over VSLAM). The new models look significantly different from the original Roombas and more like their competitors. They also use a different app with fewer features, but added some new hardware features the previous models lacked, including spinning mop pads and a roller mop.

In a regulatory filing earlier this month, the company warned it may be forced to seek bankruptcy protection following the breakdown of advanced negotiations with a potential buyer, and if it couldn’t secure additional funding.

Roomba customers are understandably concerned about the impact these current financial troubles might have on their home cleaning robots.

Earlier this month, fellow American robot vacuum manufacturer Neato, which shut down in 2023, pulled the plug on its cloud services, leaving its robots unable to communicate with the Neato app. However, the vacuums can still be controlled manually.

Similarly, if iRobot goes out of business and its cloud shuts down, most Roombas should still continue to work in offline mode — pressing the physical button on the robot to start, stop, and dock it. However, they likely wouldn’t be controllable via the app for features like scheduling or specific room cleaning, or via voice commands. This potential dilemma just further highlights that cloud-connected devices should be enhanced by connectivity, not reliant on it.

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[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 138 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Oh look, another example of a product that worked fine without internet connectivity and was improved by adding extra bullshit you don't actually need that then gets worse when those features can't function properly because their server is offline.

We got a basic roomba 650 (the one that crashes into stuff and randomly cleans) like 10 years ago and it still works fine (well, as well as it ever worked which wasn't great), you program the time and day of the week with physical buttons, and leave it alone.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 54 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Yeah. I've got an 870 that's still cleaning. It gets stuck under furniture and needs to be rescued at least once a week, and last week it lost its ~~ass~~ dustbin somehow mid clean, but it's still kicking.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If only there was such a thing like bluetooth to connect mobile apps to local devices

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Mobile apps bit rot pretty quickly when they stop updating them. A web UI would be better. A server or internet connection is not needed, a web UI can be hosted directly on the device.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

An accessible documented API would be better. A standardized one for all vacuums would be best.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 82 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How did they squander being the name in autonomous vacuum devices..? It’s kinda baffling tbh.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, Chinese manufactures cloned the design and came in well under price, took the Chinese market, then improved the product and challenged iRobot globally.

Embrace, extend, extinguish.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would not say they cloned the design. The first breakthrough for Roborock was the S5, which had LiDAR and a map. Both was not something iRobot had at the time. iRobot simply chose to not innovate in the areas people wanted first. People didn’t like the random cleaning that the roombas did for a long time compared to the structured of almost everybody else.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I used to work at iRobot. Chinese manufacturers cloned Roomba so well that parts from their robot like wheels assemblies could be dropped in and the Roomba would work.

The issue is that iRobot decided not to litigate patent infringement in China because it’s an uphill battle.

I agree that iRobot was very slow to innovate. They were on the brink of releasing a lawn mower robot but covid hit and the C suites made the decision to kill that product and fire that team to reduce risk…

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[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 days ago

How did they squander being the name in autonomous vacuum devices..?

Letting a picture of a customer using the bathroom leak onto Facebook cannot have helped.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/19/1065306/roomba-irobot-robot-vacuums-artificial-intelligence-training-data-privacy/

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago

Really? It's not a mystery. China. For the past 5+ years they have had better and cheaper vacuums. Meanwhile innovation has been at a standstill with irobot for the past decade.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 70 points 3 days ago (3 children)

For anyone interested in owning their vacuum robot check out Valetudo

[–] Damage@feddit.it 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Idk, the dev seems.... hostile. And prevents the project from becoming a community effort. Also:

Feature-parity is a non-goal for Valetudo, and if you’re wondering which features “you might lose”, Valetudo is not for you.

I mean, I do wonder if I will lose features, therefore I guess I should look elsewhere.

[–] Hypfer@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And prevents the project from becoming a community effort.

No, I am not doing that, because I cannot do that. That is the whole thing with FOSS code.

If there was a community of builders picking it up and doing something community-driven, I could not do anything about it, nor would I want to.

They would be required to not call it Valetudo + not use the logo, so that they cannot coast off the brand and reputation of course - and that I would absolutely expect from anyone -, but other than that anyone can do whatever.

Why this hasn't happened yet, I cannot say for certain, but my hypothesis is that no one actually wants to put in the work. Likely both because work is work and work is annoying, but also because what exists now just works so what would you even do other than slap another name on it and feel good about yourself.


But putting that aside, I'd like to ask a different question: Why wouldn't I want that?

If community is nice, friendly, warm and full of heart, why would I oppose that? I am, after all, just like you. A human that would like to have fun, pleasant and nice interactions with other like-minded humans. I, like everyone else, am a social creature that enjoys being seen as a fellow human and member of a group.

So why would I oppose that?

The answer to that might be, that the mental model of "community project" does not actually in reality and execution fit any of what I described right now.


Of course, I cannot and will not rule out that it is just me and that I am the problem, but even if that is the case, then I still need to exist and need space to exist. "Just be normal" just means "stop being you"

It would be quite weird to not allow me to exist within the space I created from nothing from the ground up, wouldn't it? If even that isn't a place I would be allowed to be in, then where is?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Valetudo is not a community is on the website.

If your answer to my comment is: "well, you can create your own community, with blackjack and hookers!", well... There'd be so much to discuss that I don't think it's worth it.

And as for the second paragraph, communities aren't "nice". They're communities, made of people, who are all flawed, just like everyone is, in different ways, but manage to make the puzzle of human interaction fit. If all you want is people communicating and behaving in a specific way that you approve of, that's not a community.

Nobody's forcing you out of your space and I've never proposed it, I just said that I won't be using your software, we're both making our choices, hopefully in respect of each other.

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s all explained here: https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/why-not-valetudo.html

The dev has a specific vision and that’s it. If you don’t like it you can use something else.

Just like the dev of Calibre/Kitty. He does things a certain way because that’s the way he likes it. It’s a stupid and shit way, but Calibre has no real competition so I use it 🙂

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[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear to support anything from iRobot. I’m hoping that there will be a jailbreak made available before they go bankrupt, but I doubt it.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Customers shouldn't need to be concerned because the company going down should not brick your PHYSICAL PRODUCTS

And yet, here we are

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've got one, and it works well enough when offline.

If not, I could set up Home Assistant and self-host it.

It's a shame, as Mozilla gave iRobot one of the better privacy ratings. That's the only reason I allowed it in my house to begin with.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This potential dilemma just further highlights that cloud-connected devices should be enhanced by connectivity, not reliant on it.

This should be everyone's takeaway.

The problem isn't the company possibly going out of business, its the loss of online service nerfing the device that is the real issue.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It would be easy enough to force vendors to make the URL the device connects to, configurable and to publish the API the device is using. Two minuscule changes that can prolong the life of devices by decades.

[–] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

To be fair, many roombas have a mini DIN connector somewhere, which opens up the possibility for external control - what I plan to do when mine stops working due to server shutdown. However, getting replacement parts will get more and more tricky as time goes by.

I just had to through out a mostly functional airfryer because the drawer rail disintegrated and the replacement part is no longer manufactured. The oldest one I could get was a "new" version with more plastic and a slightly bigger size, so it didn't fit by about 5%.

It really should be illegal, there is no logical reason for 500 slightly different models and inoperability of basic functions (drawers, APIs, ...) aside from malignant greed and planet destruction.

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[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

That would make the husk of the company truly worthless, and I'm not sure private equity will allow that.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 3 days ago (8 children)

If it doesn’t work when the cloud is down, it’s not your thing. Don’t buy it. 8sleep is only the most recent example.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

For 99% of everything, if I don't have 100% control over a physical thing in my possession, I refuse to buy it.

The exceptions are things like my phone because it's a necessary device these days and there aren't a lot of options for something not locked down to all hell. Though it looks like that could change eventually with a Linux phone.

Kitchen appliances, washing machines, cars, and beds do not need to be connected to the web. Hell even most of the smart features they claim require the network to function could be done without connectivity. Just program that shit into the god damn device instead of outsourcing the workload to an offsite server farm.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

The exceptions are things like my phone because it's a necessary device these days and there aren't a lot of options for something not locked down to all hell.

Graphene is good enough, IMO.

The real problem is that getting to 99% is damn near a full-time job and the capitalist cartel actively punishes it (by only offering owner control in 'commercial-grade' products at huge markup, or not manufacturing such things at all and forcing you to DIY).

It's unreasonable to expect any but the most dedicated (read: stubborn) people like us to be able to handle it; the only viable solution for the masses is to wrestle back control of the government and end regulatory capture of the FTC etc.

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

I bought a robot vacuum, rooted it, and installed Valetudo (Wyze WVCR200S w/motherboard from a Viomi V6 - same robot).

I don't have to worry about this shit anymore. The vacuum still does the vacuum thing whether or not it's connected to the internet.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why IoT isn't sustainable. If you don't have total control you're fucked.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why proprietary cloud-based IoT isn't sustainable.

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[–] Emi@ani.social 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Glad we have dumb "roomba" that has just one physical sensor when he bumps into something and infra for detecting docking station and for remote control. It does the job and that's the main thing. Over the years only had to replace the battery.

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Truly the Kodak of this generation

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kodak said "we don't believe digital photography will take over" and iRobot is like "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

They fucked up by making their robots last seemingly forever, due to the fact they spy on you and get stuck every 15 mins so you never want to turn them on.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 17 points 3 days ago

The entire problem is that automobiles have become an accepted housing option, and Roombas don't operate well in a vehicular environment, thus drastically cutting into their sale.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This year, iRobot launched an entirely new line of robot vacuums ... adding lidar navigation to its line for the first time (over VSLAM).

Reminiscent of all the other failed tech companies that refused to implement better/newer tech.

I wouldn't get one without lidar.

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[–] elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

I hope they open source it before dying (if they do end up going under)

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago (6 children)

You can't set a timer on the thing without internet access?!?

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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 11 points 3 days ago

Pressing a physical button to stop it. So you gotta chase your roomba down before it eats your chinchilla. Sounds fun.

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