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[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Slow motion civil war. This is not actually about immigration, illegal or otherwise. Understand and accept this: They're coming for you, eventually. Picture yourself as the person tackled to the ground, put in handcuffs, whisked away without trial, maybe never to be seen again. No one is safe from this. Not the people who think they're just normal people doing their jobs, not the people just trying to live their own lives in peace, not even the people celebrating this and relentlessly loyal to the regime. Everyone is a potential target, for reasons real and imaginary, it makes no difference. Fascism doesn't care, it is arbitrary and cruel, it isn't reasonable and it cannot be reasoned with, it is the pursuit of absolute power and the relentless application of that power is all that matters. This is what the first stage always looks like, but there's always a second stage, and there's always someone new who needs to be rounded up, and sooner or later, it's going to be you. Either stop it here, or wait until it's gotten even stronger. Your choice.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 20 points 3 days ago

Unless everyone is granted due process, anyone can be denied it, including you and your loved ones.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Either stop it here

How do we do that though 😭 We've already done the largest nationwide protests. Twice.

I really hope the answer isn't "fast motion civil war"

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

everyone left, right, and center is just coping on the idea things "return to normal" when trump dies, imo when that doesn't happen is when things get...interesting.

ideally trump dues in the most public and embarrassingly way possible, cause if there's even the slightest doubt how this shitstain croaks you know the CPM is gonna stoke their base of cultists into a frenzy

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I really hope the answer isn’t “fast motion civil war”

I really hope so too.

How do we do that though

More protests, for the time being. Start organizing and connecting to and through the people organizing, if you're in any position to, or at least start organizing your own life to prepare for the need for even more serious protests ahead. The thing about pressure is you can't let up, or the pressure goes away the moment you do. The pressure must continue to build.

There is a general strike being talked about. It's likely a couple years away, but it's a serious threat to the establishment, and you should take it seriously. Whether you're unionized or not, expect to participate, and start preparing for it. It's not going to be easy, especially if you're not in a union. Save what money you still can by not funding the things you don't have to. Become the austerity they want to impose on you. Build support systems. Find a community that can help support you. You don't need to live off grid and be totally self-sufficient. We live and thrive in communities and collaborative societies for a reason. Find people who need your help and can help you in turn. Find people you can rely on. Work to be less reliant on your paycheck, and be more involved with other real people who are likely in the same situation as you, like your neighbors and coworkers, even if you don't like them personally. It's not going to be easy, they've rigged the economy and our means of communication and socialization to make sure it isn't easy. Have backup plans, and have backup plans for your backup plans. Expect that shit will get rough, things will be different, things will happen that you have not planned for. Success will look different from everything your entire life has told you success should look like, success will be survival. Expect that your desire for financial and social stability will get tested. Don't cling to the established way of doing things or your pursuit of stability and the status quo will drag you down as it goes, things must be unstable if the status quo is going to change and you'll have to let go eventually. Be prepared to find a new way to live. For the world to change, we must all be ready to change with it.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

ICE was confirmed in Asheville this morning. Protest at 2pm tomorrow (edit: Sunday) for anyone in the area. Another protest next Friday at 5:30 (11/21). Protect your neighbors.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where is the protest happening in Ashevillle

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was told corner of Patton/Broadway at 2, which is where I'll go, but with spontaneous organizing that could end up being anywhere from Pritchard to Millennium park.

Edit: found a flyer

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[–] grunk@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago

Leave our friends & neighbors alone you faceless brutal thugs

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

They're in my state. Next my city.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

Is that where the asshole went? buttvino?

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Whistles out, cameras ready, march!

I guess no more Myrtle Beach vacations

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Goons.

Or, as c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world defines them:

Fascist Paramilitary invaders

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yesterday Charlotte was fucking scary with the Natz... I mean ICE goons all over the city