Well... And a lot of them just moved to locations that were safer for them so they are more concentrated in certain areas. People saying they're no boomer lqbtq people haven't been to San Francisco or key west apparently.
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I know it's Key West and everything, but I just can't imagine why an lgbtq+ person would ever choose to move to Florida.
Florida being a super conservative state is relatively new. I mean Obama won Florida in 08 and in 2012. It wasn't until 2020 when Republicans really secured the state as fascist hell hole. Key West has been a "port in the storm" for gay people since the 1950's.
Desantis was elected governor in 2018 I think.
I know Key West is known for that, but when your state government is actively, violently, hostile towards your existence, it doesn't really matter if your local community is an oasis of tolerance.
Key West can't protect you from the state government.
I mean, that's kinda the same as saying a liberal state government can't protect you from the federal government. Either way, vulnerable communities setting up self protection/mutual aid network is going to offer more protection than any state actor would.
It's not usually the state that you have to really worry about. It's usually the paramilitary group that do most of the violence, and you can definitely take steps to arm a community against those.
To a degree, legal weed still exists so the state isn't totally powerless
Yeah it's usually not, but these are not usual times are they? The state has a lot of power.
It always gives me a bit of pause to remember that the Pulse gay nightclub shooting during it's Latino culture celebration was in Orlando, Florida.
My parents: “People in our days were men or women, no in between.”
Also my parents: “Yeah, Joe Bloggs, the guy who’s worn womens clothes and accessories for 40 years.”
Pick a lane, do they not exist or have existed for decades?!
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I always cringe when conservatives around my age say there were no trans kids back when they were in school, because I was just abused out of my school when I was outed as a trans man and had to be homeschooled instead. (I’m not talking about just bullying, the abuse culminated with three classmates raping me on school property before classes one morning.)
The other trans kid I knew of in my class was literally expelled once she came out. (Something the school blamed on me, since they claimed they had to kick her out after how classmates had reacted to me.)
So, I guess there are no trans kids in school with you if you attack them until they leave, or just throw them out.
This boomer can confirm: The closet is walk-in with an ensuite, bar fridge, and a huge quantity of copium.
And the scars from the ones we lost to AIDS are old enough to forget about for a few days at a time.
Growing up, I heard so many from my parents generation saying things about having to work against your impulses. I heard so many express worry about denying attractions and fears of the same sex being attracted to them, worried about finding themselves in a situation after too much to drink…
To the point where I briefly wondered what was wrong with me, that I never felt these temptations. I even tried making out with a guy once just to see the reaction. It wasn’t for me, I just don’t have that attraction in me.
I realized VERY young that the gay/straight thing was a whole lot easier AND a whole lot more complicated than it had been sold.
Closeted religious people are like that.
I still think about the time a pastor talked about having to repress thoughts, like making love to another man.
And I just sat there going, "Uh I don't think about that. Do you have that thought a lot, pastor?"
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Don't forget how many simply refused to entertain reality in the first place. Every so often we still see someone telling on themselves, like "If he didn't actually have sex with men, he's not gay. If gay was just attraction we would all be gay." They got pushed so far into the closet that they thought that was just how the world is.
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My brother is from that era. I used to hangout with him and his friends when I was a kid and they were easily some of the nicest, smartest, most accepting people I knew. They’re a big reason for my radicalization into adulthood.
That whole friend circle has been decimated by AIDS. It’s really sad. He has a couple friends that made it through, but things will never be the same for him or the remaining friends.
Edit: thinking about this more, it makes me thankful to still have my brother around. On the non-selfish side, I’m sad he has to endure such loss and grief.
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AIDS is a huge one.
I met someone a little while ago who was fresh out of the closet and complaining how long they’d spent there.
Statistically, they’d be dead if they were out pre AIDS.
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Dont forget the ones who internalized homophobia and became gay-persecuting Republicans with Grindr accounts.
Yes, just look at RNC conventions isn't that like 50% boomers?
A lot of it is denial as well. In the mental health realm, for example, I meet a lot of Boomers who show obvious signs of ADHD and/or Autism and they haven't the slightest idea they have it.
If you ask one of them to get tested, they'll just stubbornly refuse and insist there's nothing different about them, even when you point out their symptoms to them. "A lot of people do this; doesn't mean anything!" Yeah well a lot of people are neurodivergent. Something like 30% of the population has ADHD, for example.
Just because a lot of people have a mental health disorder, that doesn't give you an excuse to just ignore it! You still need treatment and therapy.
Something like 30% of the population has ADHD, for example.
No, they don't.
ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder.
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterised by..
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41572-024-00495-0
Neurodevelopmental disorders (NDDs) affect around 15% of children and adolescents globally
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8985496/
So all NDD's — including ADHD — affect around ~15% of the population, but you're claiming ADHD alone affects ~30% of the population?
^ps ^I've ^an ^excellent ^therapist
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I'm a Gen Xer. There wasn't a single gay or trans person in any of the schools I went to all the way through high school. That I knew of. I sometimes wonder who was and either kept it hidden or didn't even know themselves because it wasn't considered ~~an option~~ a possibility.
Same here. Not one person felt safe enough to come out at my high school. That first get together after starting college was incredible: the people who started queer relationships that first semester weren't always happy (I mean, that's fair given how bad dating can suck), but they were finally getting to live the way they should've had the freedom to their whole lives and it showed.
It's stupid and funny how ready my classmates were to accept LGBTQ+ relationships, but only after graduation. If we'd just extracted our heads from our butts, we could've made the environment our friends needed to be more fully themselves while we had the time with them.
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Surely you knew one or more guys who were overly excitable/dramatic or one or more girls who were like... the opposite of feminine? I knew them, I can think back now and see in my head the faces of the ones I would suspect, lol. I recently had one of them reach out to me through Facebook (I'm not on Facebook but my SO is) and sure enough, she has a wife now and I just thought "yep, that tracks."
Yes, there are some I suspect may have been gay and/or trans in hindsight, but at the time it didn't cross my mind. Transgender wasn't even a word I'd be exposed to until decades later. It's also important to note that I went to DoDDS schools (American schools overseas, in this case Germany, for the dependents of military servicemembers) for most of my school years, which would have made keeping such things hidden even more likely.
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As an older gay guy, as you grow older, being gay stops being important. You just like guys, and the other guy like girls. That's it.
And it's actually kind of annoying how some people make that their entire personality. But when I left my mom's house I even hanged porn pictures on my room, to tell everyone what I am and that I wouldn't hide anymore. So I was the same.
But over time I realised that I should never have to hide, I didn't have to keep showing either. I didn't really want. I just did it because I was angry I had to hide.
My point is; we are here. Just not that visible.
Plus we didn't have internet back then. Thank god. I wouldn't want to see again the things I would have written.
Edit, I must also say that it's because a lot of people fought for our rights. I couldn't just be a guy who likes guys back then. It's a luxury I love. I can say stuff like "my partner, he does this or that" and it never becomes "what, are you gay?" anymore. It's just like a straight guy talking about his female partner most of the times, and that's awesome. I can choose to make it my personality or not these days without having to hide.
Omar Little in The Wire was the first time I saw an amazing character who happened to be gay. It was so damn revolutionary to see, finally. It always annoyed me so much that gay was a personality type like goth or nerd or jock, in US media.
I'm glad you posted your perspective though, as I had never really considered it this way.
It always annoyed me so much that gay was a personality type like goth or nerd or jock, in US media.
Yeah. Same. The dream was to just be normal. That liking guys is the same as liking girls. You can be a femboy gay, or a macho yanktank straight, or the other way around. But it's not anymore simply who you like that catches people attention.
You can simply be gay, and that is just one detail of your life. Not a whole fight anymore.
I've had quite a few gay friends over the years, partied, hung out and did everything you do with friends. I never understood the aversion to people based on who they prefer as a partner. It just seems so juvenile.
Part of me wonders how people that grew up during the 80s and 90s came to think that, it seemed like things were on the right track for acceptance till within say the last 10-15 years (though I may have missed a lot of indicators being straight). Now everything is so polarized and it really makes me sad not just for lost rights of my old friends but cause it's like society is regressing in its ideals. Hate and bigotry never help things grow except for conflict and we need less of that.
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"Being gay and trans is just a fad" says the generation that wiped out most of the queer population by ignoring a disease that literally killed most of their queer friends and family. And then made their living queer friends taboo because they like another person of the same sex
Most? I am highly skeptical of this claim. Iirc, lgbt people make up about 10% of the population. Depending on your interpretation, it could be far more, but let's say 10%. "Most" of 10% would be 5%. Are you really claiming that AIDS killed a whole 5% of the population in the 80s? That would be.... a lot
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Insert left-handedness over time chart superimposed on prevalence of teaching kids they must write with right hand regardless of their preference.
This is me once again seeing the LGBTQ+ initialism and asking people to switch to the more respectable and scientific term "Sexual and Gender Minorities" or SGM for short.
Or queer. Or the archaic gender neutral 'gay'¹
¹but not the modern more masculine gendered 'gay'
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Not rare with boomer LGBTQ+ people here in Sweden, I know several and had many around as neighbours etc. throughout my whole life. One of the people who checks your ID and stuff when you vote in my area is trans (mtf) and has been doing that for 30+ years and it's nothing odd for the vast majority who meet her, I think she's in her 80s now. Was always curious and liked her when I was a kid and went there with my parents. Still like her of course, and it's always so nice to see her still doing that.
Lou reed was a boomer. His music proves shit was the same as now.
Or are closeted in congress
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