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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 72 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

First, I think she's a shameless exaggerator.

Second, this is so stupid. Forget your health: how do you actually think you're effective without rest? Every human being knows exactly how rest works, because we can all run this test ourselves.

This myth persists that some people can force themselves to be effective with minimal rest by pure will, despite the fact that every one of us has experienced sleep deprivation at some point, and all of us know that without sleep we have the intelligence of a 9 year old.

Anyone who claims to be the exception to this biological rule is either lying or they're stupid because they didn't sleep and now have the intelligence of a nine year old.

Also: not "needing" sleep is often something said by people with insomnia. People like Trump and Musk do survive on only a few hours of sleep a night. But this isn't because they're strong or smart: it's because their brains are not functioning correctly and they can't get sleep they need.

Sleep isn't optional. This PM is fucking up their job by walking through life confused and disoriented.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

“I sleep about two hours now, four hours at the longest,” she told MPs at a legislative committee meeting this week. “It’s probably bad for my skin,”

Its probably bad for a lot of things. Especially trying to live past 75 years old. Shes already 64, that has got to do a number on your longevity

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She is 64. At this rate 67 is unlikely.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lack of sleep supposedly puts you at higher risk for Alzheimer’s.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

Or it might be that the causality is reversed, and sleep disturbance is an early symptom of Alzheimer's.

Regardless of Alzheimer's, sleep disturbances also increase with age, most likely due to neurotransmitter depletion.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No lie I really suffer from this same sleep condition. I sleep 4 hrs per day only. My body can never sleep longer than 2-3 hrs max without waking up; After 6 hrs then I may feel headache and sleep another 1-2 hrs again. and this's been aging my health badly.

I've been going like this for almost 20 yrs now; before that I used to abuse combinations of amphetamine/zolpidem-based drugs which helped me stay up/sleep.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Biphasic/Polyphasic sleep by itself isn't anything bad, and it is a technique some use for getting the same amount in less total time. Humans didn't really start consistently sleeping 8 solid hours in one go until the industrial revolution or so.

For me personally, while normally I'll do 8-10 hours, if I'm extremely tired from like an all-nighter or something, I will get exactly 4½ hours of sleep at first, always, without a doubt. I'll then wake up unable to sleep until after roughly 6-8 hours of being awake at which point I'll crash and have to go back to sleep.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Thank you so much I just learned about this. Exactly I sleep twice a day ~2.5 hrs each, but can never sleep more than 3 hrs at once.

However, in the same article they point that Irrelgular Sleep Wake rhythem is a disorder. I have the worst memory for someone in his 40s. you have no idea how I'm so afraid of dementia at later age of my life.

Just wanted to thank you again for letting me know about this. I will have to do more research before I decide to medicate myself.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Humans didn’t really start consistently sleeping 8 solid hours in one go until the industrial revolution or so.

That's based on some really tendentious readings of a few people's accounts of waking up at night in the Middle Ages. Some people probably did that, especially at latitudes where the nights are 18 hours long in winter, but generalizing that to something that happened everywhere and at all times of year prior to the industrial revolution is a massive stretch.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not just the second sleep theory, though I'd argue it isn't exactly just a "few peoples accounts", but stuff like siesta and naps in general.
The point isn't to say everyone slept the exact same biphasic sleep before but that after the industrial revolution the shift has been for everyone to transition to the "8-hours at night in one go at exactly the same time" method, which doesn't suit everyone and isn't exactly natural. Before artificial lights and clocks people slept with way more irregularity as there wasn't any strict time schedule to follow, and people waking up during the night or not getting enough sleep at one go wasn't really such an issue.
Not to mention that your sleep would have to follow the seasons and the sun way more.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

That is biologically impossible, even with drugs

She is just another far right lunatic lying to justify exploiting people

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is she doing drugs? I would like to know what performance enhancing drugs she is taking. Cause on the measly 4 hrs I take i cant type for crap. But 2 hrs?? Id be gaga conference ducwywc drew conefwfe.....😴

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

Aww there there buddy, have a nice cup of covfefe?

Biologically, this is not sustainable beyond a week or two at the most. She will die.

Or she's lying. It's one or the other.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago

Dementia often interferes with sleep, and extremist politics is associated with dementia.

[–] earlstilt@feddit.uk 13 points 4 days ago

This is a mental illness, she needs help not responsibility

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago

That explains a lot about her.

[–] Jack@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

How many hours during the day?