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[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 6 days ago

"Yet, the Danish Presidency still leaves a door open for mandatory scanning by planning to introduce a "review clause.""

Taking it down brick by brick one step at a time.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As per the text shared by the Danish Presidency, the October 30 compromise proposes removing all provisions on detection obligations included in the bill (Articles 7 to 11). These are the obligations to monitor all users' chat activities.

Voluntary CSAM scanning would then be made permanent and included in Article 4 as a possible mitigation measure.

Yet, the Danish Presidency still leaves a door open for mandatory scanning by planning to introduce a "review clause."

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This, Director of Government Affairs and Advocacy at the Internet Society, Callum Voge, told TechRadar, allows for the file to be revisited in the future if new detection technologies are developed as alternatives to client-side scanning.

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According to Breyer, though, this may instead be a way to "introduce mandatory Chat Control through the backdoor," rather than a real fix.

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What's certain, both Breyer and Voge also believe voluntary scanning may carry some security and privacy risks.

Breyer said to TechRadar: "Even where voluntarily implemented by communications service providers such as currently Meta, Microsoft, or Google, chat control is still totally untargeted and results in indiscriminate mass surveillance of all private messages on these services."

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought voluntary scanning was already on the books (this is what I gathered from the article)? What makes this version different?

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I for one will be going back to written letters for all further correspondence.

Wonder if my postman is reading my letters though as well?

[–] RalfWausE@blackneon.net 8 points 6 days ago

Weeelll... back in the "good old days" of the GDR there was even machinery for unnoticeable opening and resealing envelopes to spy on the population...

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That‘s funny because Denmark ended physical letter mail this year too. They are locked in when it comes to building a dystopian surveillance state.

[–] 12plus1plus12@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago

That's not true

[–] Culf@feddit.dk 1 points 5 days ago

Not true What happened is that the state supported postal service company, Post Nord, will no longer deliver letters however some other private company which was already delivering other packages, will start delivering letters instead of Post Nord.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Does Denmark still have mail delivery for "other items" like small are large packages?

I would presume one could still send a envelope with a letter inside it located inside a bigger box or bubble envelope? One could even use the service to ship a fully encrypted USB or HHD if one wanted too.

In Canada there is talk about ending the national funded postal service as well (this one delivers letters predominantly), you can use it to ship larger items along with standard envelopes.

Its a strange idea to me though as people always need to mail things, so if the national postal service is shuttered then a private postal service will need to step in.

[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago

ah shit, here we go again

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How did Denmark end up being the bad guy in this? Volunteering for the role seems out of character, but who knows.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

You have on the typical rose-tinted glasses many wear when thinking about Denmark and Scandinavia in general.

Greetings,

An Italian who lived in Scandinavia 13 years and is trying hard to escape before Denmark hits a recession.