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Absolutely incandescent!
"Do you agree?!?" Lol. Yes I actually do but this has some real bot energy which makes it feel a bit weird. Like this post isn't actually genuine and even though I agree with it, it only exists to try and get dissenters in so people will argue and become more divided. Feels icky like a reddit post
We need amendments to restrict the power over civil rights. Essentially no civil rights law can be removed or superseded by additional laws. And that no laws can be passed to allow exception to this law.
Also we need clear penalties for failing to follow laws. Not just for presidents but any members of any level of political seats. Specific infraction and penalties.
A 3 strike policy. 3 such acts and removal of office followed by a new election in 6 months or a year.
Also laws against aipac and corporate money in politics. Banned. Permanently. No exceptions. No ability to change laws to change this either.
We keep learning that when we don't have strict laws and strict guidelines for insuring those laws are followed, bad actors will (always) take advantage. And the laws are useless unless they are enforced in an unbiased way.
Also Congress members for states cannot override voted on laws. The people supercede the elected officials whims.
We also need ways to remove people from office during their term.
The problem with being unable to change or supercede laws is the hubris to assume the laws passed are perfect for all time. We have all of human history to prove we are not the peak of civilization.
Getting bribery out of politics by removing lobbying and campaign finance is probably the best thing we can do. Having every politician run with the same amount of money and banning retired politicians from working as lobbiests or board members after office would do the most for eliminating corruption.
Even if you make laws unrepealable or changable, if the government won't enforce it then it solves nothing. We have no higher entity to complain to and get enforcement or satisfaction. And if there is some higher entity empowered and capable, we then put all trust that whatever is enforcing law can never be corrupted or coerced or have its own adjenda.
I can't see any scenario where civil rights laws would ever need removed. So I still suggest making those permanent and unchangeable.
Other laws can have time restrictions.
But I worry they will just get nulled when no one is looking.
For example, let's say we can ban cooperate pac money in politics and make the law unchangeable for 20 years.
In 20 years. Most people have forgotten why corporate pac money was such a problem.
And in that time, corps have been buying people on the down low. Waiting to get this law removed.
So it gets removed.
And again no one really notices until we have another situation like the present one. Which can take a pretty long time to fully mature. 10 to 20 years. Or even longer.
And then again, it becomes near impossible to ban because those in power are all bought.
The cycle will just keep repeating itself.
Some laws do need to be permanent. And unchangeable.
That's literally what the Constitution is.
Civil rights and taking bribes from corporations illegal should be permanent laws.
As well as putting caps on donations.
Restricting law makers from owning stocks or owning companies. Or being on the board of any companies.
There will never be any scenario where these type of laws should be lifted.
My point was that at one time separate but equal was considered enlightened by a majority of the population. I agree that short societal memory is a curse we have to work around.
The Constitution is not permanent and unchangeable, it is a living document that can and has been amended to suit new or changing needs. That's why they are called Amendments in the first place. It is by design a lot more difficult to change than other laws, and this is a good thing, but the Founders knew they couldn't get everything right for all time.
That's fair
I agree!
Okay, you've identified a problem. What is your solution?
The way the question is worded they are in the process of gaining agreement. Trying to address an issue with others when you haven't gained agreement on the actual problem ends up taking longer with more of a mess and things getting pushed in every direction with some people not knowing if it has already been accomplished. Say Terry thinks the problems is solved when you oust the Tyrant, Jerry thinks the problem is over when you get the supreme Court balanced, and Barry thinks the problem is solved when we stop having federal troops deployed in cities. Jerry, Terry, and Barry all think they are working together, but are all pushing in different directions and ultimately will achieve none of the goals described by poster. Getting them all to agree on a problem, makes it clearer to know when the goal has been completed. (Hopefully). Granted soon as you start to implement anything, shit is going to hit the fan anyways, because the easiest way to power is by tearing down others, not building others up.
Sortition sounds like an interesting idea (TL;DR - make congress work more like a jury where randomly selected citizens make the laws instead of career politicians):