False dichotomy, much?
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Crazy fucks do that sometimes. I wonder why people still listen to them.
"Owner of surveillance apparatus reckons we should all just chill and accept total surveillance"
This fucking dude.
Like seriously, in what reality are these two things NOT mutually exclusive? Also doesn't palantir have contracts with China?
I'd rather be a free and open society than win any kind of industrial race.
"It's just... We're named after the artifact the ancient evil used to peer on the world."
he has several companies named after lotr things, ANDURIL,mithril i think, lembas,,,etc.
That's my point. He is enough of a fan to know the connotation. He knows what the name implies, and company names are a deliberate choice that imply things about that company.
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China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.
The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.
Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.
I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.
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"A surveillance state is needed to beat china who is evil because it's a surveillance state"
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a surveillance megacorp says surveillance is good and needed. cartoonish evil.
Boy I wish we as a society would stop reporting on these sociopathic vampires spouting whatever nonsense just popped into their heads
How would you know that they are sociopathic vampires if no one reported on what they believed in?
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Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell's 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.
Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.
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The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world
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us winning the ai race. china winning the ai race. who gives a shit i still wont care about ai.
"First one to rid itself of its human workforce" makes the race sound less enticing.
I can't wait to see this guy hanging by his left nut while people take shots at him like a piñata.
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The what race? No one has been working on AI for a while... if he means LLMs and similar generative models there's only the race to see how long it takes for the models to be so poisoned by being trained on their own slop that they no longer can produce the illusion of giving useful results (seems like the current generation is almost there, already giving diminishing results), and the race to extract as much money as possible from the economy before the first one ends and the bubble pops...
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Breaking News.
Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace
If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.
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Aliens (even illegal ones) are preferable to an asteroid strike, too.
Too bad they aren’t mutually exclusive.
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Ahh yes. The only 2 options
I bet you'd be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.
False dichotomy.
If you've never seen this guy giving a talk, it's worth looking at. This guy is a total tweeker. Can't sit still, and has insane thoughts he's just willing to say in public.
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You're not going to beat the Chinese government by being worse than them. You beat them by helping the Chinese figure out the Chinese Government is bad. By being worse than them you just set yourself up to be destroyed the same way they will be.
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i wish i could palantir my nuts on his face
Can somebody please hack this guys socials and leak all his private info so we see him eat his words?
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Punchable face.
Also, Butlerian Jihad When?
It is sad and mystically abysmally ironic that all the books written about dystopias are seemingly being read as manuals
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This is Bubble-101. Before the thing exists, imagine the future...
threatening that another country will get there first combined with pure players like Nvidia, the uncertainty of whether or not it could be a good investment and being able to convince governments and investors to pump money into it.
If AGI ever becomes what they are promising, everything after 2022 should be a case study for marketing and communications students because they are doing a piss-poor job inspiring confidence and just sound like grifters.
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We are going in that direction. Data centers being built all over the place is the very foundation for tracking every human on the planet.
I think future generations will not have any ability to go online, shop, work or live without a real id tracking everything about them.
You voice your concerns about something unpopular online, you may be blocked from taking a loan or work a job. Fear of stating your true opinion will be everywhere.
It won't even be obvious to you it happened or what may have caused it. Some AI algorithm determines you are an un-citizen and checks a box. Rejections keep coming back as you slowly fall down the social ladder, or not so slowly at all, until you become the invisible poor and disappear altogether.
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Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to ~~China Winning the AI Race~~ Planatir shareholders not getting rich fast enough
Fixed it
The whole reason China winning would be bad is because of their surveillance state ensuring no one gets around their curtailment of civil liberties...
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Some stupid ass logic
This guy is the maker of surveillance states.
Any ways to actively help China win the AI race?
Hypothetically, of course.
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