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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then maybe top brass needs to do something about what the creature in the white house is planning.

"Let's use our cities as military training grounds" was a pretty big fucking hint, wouldn't you say?

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that's why Hegseth is firing these people, because those people might say no.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 20 hours ago

They haven't yet and there is no indication they will ever do anything but "I serve the flag, not the man behind the desk" and "I was just following orders".

Nah, these folk were probably caught not being appropriately horny during the rally a few months back.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The whole system is designed to keep working no matter what they think. Their recourse for this move is simply to quit, allowing their posts to be filled by people who won't oppose these kinds of moves. It's how the military has always worked, and I doubt the generals are going to start changing now. For them fascism promises(even if it cant deliver it) safety by going with the status quo. They're not going to start attacking American institutions, they're just going to quit.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

In other words, they're a bunch of oath-breaking fucking cowards.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Well when J6 2.0 rolls around, they'll need loyalists that they've been grooming for 4 years in place.

[–] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

That's the plus side for them. The down side is if the US gets into a proper military fight, they won't have anyone experienced to do logistics and operations.

Think back about how badly the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan but make it 80% worse.

In a way it makes this Canadian feel slightly better. If Hegseth decides to invade Canada there is a non-zero chance he sends troops to Cambodia.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe dead American soldiers coming home in body bags will finally break the cult? It's one thing to chant about how "Jews will not replace us" and throw seig heils in support of Trump when things are quiet for America on the global scale. It's another thing to do it when your kid comes home in a body bag.

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Come on mothers throughout the land

Pack your boys off to ~~Vietnam~~ Canada

Come on fathers, don't hesitate

Send your daughters off before it's too late

Be the first one on your block

To have your kids come home in a box

And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for?

Don't ask me, I don't give a damn

The next stop is ~~Vietnam~~ Canada

And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates

Yeah, there ain't no time to wonder why

Whoopee, we're all gonna die

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Wise words.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 37 points 20 hours ago

Another headline from the US that makes me go "hmmm, where have I seen this before..."

[–] lath@piefed.social 35 points 1 day ago

I would think it pretty obvious why: to replace them with yes-men figureheads who will do the dumbest shit possible at a whim.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago

It does sound like what you'd expect from someone trying to destroy the US military's effectiveness.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

No explanation needed as he’s putting in sycophants who will happily protect the GOP from having, or losing an election.

[–] f1error@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

This is how you ensure a military caste ousts you from office. sigh I'm afraid for the future. 😐

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After 30 or 40 years in the military, all the generals care about is that sweet, sweet pension. They arent going to do any brave that might jeopardize that. They'll let america be over run with facists as long as they can retire with benefits.

Tuesday is Veterans day. They want all the honor, but none of the sacrafice.

[–] chipacabras@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What would you have them do? Launch a coup? It’s a challenging position for them to be in

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What would you have them do? Launch a coup?

When you have a commander-in-chief who is openly stating his intent to use our military to commit violence on american citizens?

Absolutely fucking yes.

[–] chipacabras@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I guess my thought is that should wait until actually ordered to do commit violence. Coups are very, very damaging to democracies and often beget more coups. It should only really be a last resort if civil mechanisms completely fail.

I do understand the wish that someone could just easily removal him from power though. The man is unhinged.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

There already is a couple happening, Trump and his minions are overthrowing American democracy

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I dont know the right answer. I have no idea what i would do in that situation. These are uncertain times. Alot of americans will have to make tough decisions.

I guess we'll see if americans really are as brave as we think and that we love democracy as much as we claim.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

We've been seeing.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And the world is observing us become more vulnerable…

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

Krasnov is #winning

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Replacing seasoned military leadership with yes-men sounds short-sighted, even for this bunch.