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For decades, Canadian governments, both Liberal and Conservative (under Brian Mulroney), wisely declined to participate in earlier versions of the Golden Dome under former U.S. presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Canada’s refusal was largely on the grounds that these so-called “missile defence” systems are not just defensive. In fact, they undermine arms treaties and encourage arms races.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It seems the only one we’re being threatened by is the country demanding we buy into their threatening system.

I want my Canada to be about peace keeping and not war mongering. I’m tired of the U.S. and their blatant industrial military complex.

We can’t trust an American anymore. We need to build our own defences that we can use to defend ourselves, from the facist South threatening our independence.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

You have a chance to do something really funny and station chinese and/or russian missiles right on the border. The golden dome just got 2 trillion dollars more expensive.

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

As a person outside of Canada, I too do not wish for Canada in war mode.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Keep my taxes out of that scam.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

If we're gonna be paying for a jobs program, it better be our jobs program, and it may or may not even be a military one.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting spending money on useful things that actually benefit the public? You filthy socialist!

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Guilty as charged on both accounts. 😄

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some more domestic arms production wouldn't be a bad idea

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Agreed. Although I'd really put money into nuclear deterrent and ballistic missiles if I had a say in it. Otherwise we're very vulnerable to the future whims of the declining power down south. I think their expansionist ideas could grow with the reality of climate change setting in the decades to come.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Drones too, fast drones, cheap effective.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Motor, frame, and prop production can all be spun up overnight. The money part of drones is the flight controller and radio gear, all of that comes from china and would take several years for Canada to start production.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Atm I'm buying Chinese imports but not American, so shrug

It would be nice to stand up a Gripen factory

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it better be military. We need a bigger army

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need healthcare to be treated like the army. It is a service, not a profit generation industry.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. whats up with your profile picture? 2) I think as it's going right now, we are going to have a hybrid system like germany and other EU countries have. Ill be honest, I have seen first hand how bad an ER can get, but im one of the few that don't stand up and start going karen on the staff why i haven't been seen, even when i thought i had a life threatening emergency, because i knew they were taking the right triage steps when i was first admitted, and i think alot of people could have a good lesson on how ER triaging works, so they don't feel "ignored" (other than when they, of course, are truly being ignored). I have also had my bad times in ER, given medication for "high BP" even though i don't have high BP and almost died, so i think its important that we not only invest into healthcare, but also make sure the system that we have and what we have in the future, is good for the benefit for the patient and their health all around.
[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The camera or the film? The camera is just an icon I use everywhere, the film is a DIY pallophotophone recording of my voice.

My big issue with healthcare in Canada (Ontario specifically) is that providers who do not cut corners go out of business, because they are a business. A hospital is a private entity that not only has to provide care, it has to make enough of a profit that they can keep the the lights on, pay medical staff, pay non-medical staff, buy 3 to 5 houses per board member. It incentivizes cutting corners because anywhere that there can be profit there has to be maximum profits. If healthcare was run as a service where it is expected to be a total financial loss, all funding ends up going into healthcare or the people who support the health care staff, equipment and facilities.

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the icon. cool.

ah i see what you mean. yeah i agree there, but we need also to retain medical staff in canada as well, that's a glaring issue we seem to have not solved.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's largely because provincial governments...mostly conservative ones...are always looking to "cut corners" as the other guy was saying. Canada has a problem with underfunding healthcare in order to try and "save money", instead of treating it like a necessity and prioritizing as such. If what we are paying doctors or nurses isn't competetive, then we need to correct that before we start losing good workers. If that requires us to raise revenue in other areas, then that needs to be prioritized over cutting funding to healthcare itself.

Right now, the push seems to be privatization. And that is exactly the wrong direction, if the goal is to improve the quality of services.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

If only we didn't have to subsidize the petro industry $29B, I wonder how many doctors and nurses that could pay for.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Be real the only reason for the inclusion of Canada is to help pay for it and make sure they can still cover Alaska

Also they didn’t work

[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Just means that when Trump pisses in the wind, we get the golden shower.