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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 140 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I have a problem with this headline. There's no evidence in this report or in the source article of an actual "wave of political violence" against these officials. They mention the shooting of Charlie Kirk and of the two Democratic politicians in Minnesota. Neither seem to be part of any wave that would target these politicians who are moving into cheap or free housing on military bases. The headline unnecessarily legitimizes their paranoia and their excuses.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Steven Miller had to move because of sidewalk chalk outside his house. His wife bravely told reporters they would not back down or cower in fear to the peaceful protests, then he sold his house and ran away.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Brave Sir Stephen ran away,

Bravely ran away, away.

When ~~danger~~ mild criticism reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.

Edit: thank you Nastybutler

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

When mild criticism reared its ugly head

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

You're right. Wouldn't want to give him more credit than he deserves.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

The chalk terrorism.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

It's hilarious that you thought the same thing when reading Typhoon's comment...🤣

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Having people know where he lives was scary enough for him. He knows what he's done and he knows no one is happy with it. In America, it's only a matter of time. They all talk a good talk when they are standing behind the military, get them alone on the street and they are just scared little boys without their Mamas.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Oh we'll know where he lives til it's six feet under. No hiding for that shit

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Having people know where he lives was scary enough for him. He knows what he's done and he knows no one is happy with it. In America, it's only a matter of time. They all talk a good talk when they are standing behind the military, get them alone on the street and they are just scared little boys without their Mamas.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Welcome to the modern media, they act as the 4th branch of the government and are instrumental in normalization of fascist lies. Journalistic integrity is hard to come by.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 1 day ago
[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

That's all part of the playbook

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago

They know that there is no precedent for such violence against them specifically. But they are also extrapolating, correctly I think, that people will want to kill them for what they are planning to do, above even what they are currently doing.

[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Maybe the Trump administration should stop committing political violence then?

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 50 points 1 day ago
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They're not being moved because of violence...

Not only does violence happen on base, lots of bases tell their members not to stop for gas or anything within a couple miles of base due to the rampant poverty and resulting crime immediately outside of a base.

They're moving onto bases so protestors can't bother them.

But it's just as likely to end up with military members protesting them. And that won't start with a handful, one day 100s or even 1000s will show up. Even junior enlisted understand numerical advantages and if enough do it, they can't punish everyone.

They're gonna push boots on the ground into a corner, and act shocked when they do what they're trained to do, and what they pledged an oath to do

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It would be WILD if these yokels were just straight up murdered by the people on the base. They move there to get away from violence and it turns out, the military didn't like them much.

One can dream, right?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

It would be unwise to do it on-base. It'd be safer to follow them out and do it nearby, making it look like crossfire in a local criminal beef.

Not that I would advocate such a thing.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What?

The military isn't going to execute them.

But in addition to the shit we hear about, their presence on the base is likely causing a lot of bullshit in the day to day life of military members, and eventually we might see a uniformed protest. If it does come to that, it won't start slow like a civilian protest. One day so many people will just show up that the Military Police literally can't arrest them all.

And MPs won't escalate force like civvie cops, because every MP is painfully aware how out numbered they are, and are likely even more fed up than the tank and file.

I'm sorry if my initial comment gave you the wrong impression.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

eventually we might see a uniformed protest.

Even in good times that was against the ucmj. Not happening.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No I fully agree with you. I was just day dreaming.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

someone has never been in the military.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this "wave of political violence" in the room with us right now? From what I can tell it's pretty much a bunch of libs holding up posterboards and complaining about/mocking officials. I don't think they've got the stomach to be violent quite frankly.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago

If you're used to the privilege of nobody ever insulting you to your face, the sting of realising some people aren't afraid to say bad things about you does feel like violence. All mechanisms intended to keep sharp words away from your fragile pride have evidently failed – what's to say those awfully bold people won't hurt you in other ways?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 30 points 16 hours ago

So...are we really going to call chalk drawings outside Miller's house, "political violence"? These people are such pussies.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hopefully the Generals and Admirals remember being kicked out of their top tier housing the next time they are ~~asked~~ ordered to violate citizens constitutional rights.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 10 points 1 day ago

They won't. They'll just blush and drop trow.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago

White House is now House of White Power.

[–] ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stephen Miller soon joined a growing list of senior Trump-administration political appointees—at least six by our count—living in Washington-area military housing, where they are shielded not just from potential violence but also from protest. It is an ominous marker of the nation’s polarization, to which the Trump administration has itself contributed, that some of those top public servants have felt a need to separate themselves from the public. These civilian officials can now depend on the U.S. military to augment their personal security. But so many have made the move that they are now straining the availability of housing for the nation’s top uniformed officers.

Kristi Noem, the Homeland Security secretary, moved out of her D.C. apartment building and into the home designated for the Coast Guard commandant on Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling, across the river from the capital, after the Daily Mail described where she lived. Both Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth live on “Generals’ Row” at Fort McNair, an Army enclave along the Anacostia River, according to officials from the State and Defense Departments. (Rubio spent one recent evening assembling furniture that had been delivered to the house that day.)

The reported noted that the moves aren’t entirely unprecedented, as national security officials have previously rented homes on bases “for security or convenience.”

Ah, but rented vs rent-free... With little proof of actual risk.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I'm still making my way through the audiobook version of The Sovereign Individual, and while I keep recommending others should read this thing just because it's so very cynical and this is apparently something very much looked up to by Thiel and Musk....

Anyway, given how these assholes have fled to where they think cannot even be protested, this section really jumped out at me...

Protection will become increasingly technological rather than juridical. The lower classes will be walled out. The move to gated communities is all but inevitable. Walling out troublemakers is an effective as well as traditional way of minimizing criminal violence in times of weak central authority.

[emphasis mine]

This was written in the nineties, and the authors look forward to this with obvious glee. They also have a total disdain for the "unworthy" in their minds. They think people that were/are basically unskilled in the West were/are WAY overpaid and that's due to the evil government extracting wealth from the brave job creators, who, before the information age, were subject to building massive infrastructure in physical locations, the poor dears. The authors look forward to a bright future where the worthy will be able to escape taxes w/o having to sacrifice by living in some third world shithole with a terrible quality of life.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago

Fuck dude, now he's gonna have to move again

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Needs more dicks, there’s only one in there.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Didn't help, he still looks like a punchable Nazi. If the arrow was a bullet then maybe we would have something here.

What a crock of crap.

There's no political violence against this sexless matador snowflake. There are just legitimate protests and some chalk that he's afraid of showing his unprecedented manliness.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago

There was no violence against this person. The people who wrote pretty basic nonthreatening messages on the sidewalk near his house checked with their security before they did it.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Stephen Miller looks like a stiff breeze could kill him.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is what I don't get. Who the fuck. At that level. Wants to live in military housing. Seriously is this the lifestyle they are fucking people over for? Its like hey im going to take actions to go to hell for all eternity but while alive I can live craptacularly. Its like selling your soul to satan for an efficiency thats free and clear.

[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Well this isn't your ordinary military housing. These are special large houses built for generals and top brass to live in. As an example, this is for the Marine's commandant: https://www.alamy.com/commandants-house-us-marine-corps-801-g-street-se-washington-dc-image157216083.html.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Generally true, but a handful of officer housing at a lot of bases isnt bad. Heres some at the presidio, which is a decommissioned base. https://www.presidio-residences.com/apartments/ca/san-francisco/presidio-boulevard-neighborhood/floorplans

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

The wave of violence....that the right wing is instigating, right?

Right?

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

He has the grossest mouth

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Gee, you'd think if so many despise you that maybe, just MAYBE, you're doing a bad job?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Good. I hope they are as uncomfortable as everyone they serve and reflect on that.