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What exactly does Vladimir Putin hold over the cowardly Donald Trump? (www.irishtimes.com)
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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Photos and videos from Epstein's island.

Remember the pee tape? My money is on it actually existing and that it happened not in Russia, but on Epstein's island. I'm also willing to bet it's just one small piece of evidence in a pile of photos and videos obtained from the island by Putin, and I also bet it's the most tame bit of footage he has on him.

I'll never forget the way Jack Smith looked at him in court, it was the most pure look of hatred and disgust I've ever seen.
Jack saw some shit in piles of evidence obtained from Trump's various priorities, that's not a look you give someone that only stole documents.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this is why Republicans are so affraid of the epstein files. Its not just that theyre incontrovertible proof that many are pedophiles. I think they constitute proof that control of the party has been usurped by a foreign government (russia) via blackmail for quite some time. I also dont think they show trump as just a pedo being blackmailed, but as a facilitator of the blackmail scheme.

Its fairly well known that Trump had buisness ties to the Russian mob, using his real estate and casinos etc to launder money for them. And the bratva often acts as an arm of the FSB.

I think epstein was a low level pedo traficker maybe doing some low level blackmail before he met trump.

Trump introduced him to the russians, who elevated the operation- giving him funding and increasing access to the elites- then using their victims to create a war chest and their influence to cast a wider net, until they had enough politicians / rich people to buy politicians to usurp the republican party.

I think this blackmail is now a necessary step for induction into the party- its not just that the party attracts deplorables, its that they need to hand over blackmail against themselves to be inducted into the inner circle.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I have often theorized the same thing, they don't want you in their party unless they can control you. So everyone that gets elevated has some blackmail that can be used against them.

Needless to say this is unacceptable. This, as you pointed out, is probably the real thing they fear. The sense the impeding doom if it ever reached the level of the average citizen's consciousness.

I personally think we should just clean house and get rid of everyone who has the chimo stank around them and then make sure foreign money stays out of US politics closing all the loop holes they currently use.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I disagree with your reasoning, I 'm confident his base would react more negatively to him being peed on by two consenting adults (which might not actually be the case; trafficking of adults is a thing) than him raping children, so long he takes 'masculine' role.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've always thought that it's "P" (edo) tape and not pee.

[–] aaaa@piefed.world 2 points 1 week ago

There's a lot of people mixing up info like this. The "pee tape" refers to something from the original Steele dossier that claimed he had Russian prostitutes pee on a bed that Obama had previously slept in.

Not that the details matter all that much, because it may or may not be true, and I don't think it would change anything either way.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Probably nothing that would matter at this point. Trump vacillating between supporting Ukraine and supporting Russia is consistent with this. He's angling to be the peacemaker, but doesn't know how. Every time Russia does something he doesn't like, he starts giving Ukraine a little more. That doesn't end the war, so he needs to get Russia back to the table by being nice to them. There isn't much more to it than that. Just an idiot who thinks he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.

Whatever blackmail is there may have mattered in 2016, but it doesn't matter now.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putin probably has sex tapes with Trump and underaged girls.

Its what Putin does with foreign visitors to blackmail them.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The peepee videos. One day they will be an exhibit in the Smithsonian. "Golden Memories".

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought the "pee" tapes were actually the "P" tapes, and it's footage of Trump raping children?

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

No. Reports were that shitgibbon has a piss fetish, had a watersports party in a russian hotel room with two prostitutes, and Putler has it all on tape.

[–] suddenlyme@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That he cheated on the election and therefore not actually President

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

At this point I don’t even think this would cause anything to be done. Whatever is in those files is either so demented and off the wall that their release would guarantee a violent uprising or is deeply personally embarrassing to Trump and would destroy his brand and image.

I can’t even begin to think of what the former could possibly be considering what Americans are already letting happen without rioting. But the latter, a credible video of him being ass and mouth fucked or otherwise dominated by other men or even worse ,a woman, might actually shake his base off of him. And it would annihilate his tough guy man’s man gimmick

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's this

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

At this point it wouldn't make any difference. And all he'd have to do is say "nah" and half of the US population would take his word for it.

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone knows that Vladimir Putin has a video of Donald Trump in a Russian hotel urinating on a child and then probably fuck her.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone knows this about him, and yet he's still President. Why would he care about such a video? He's bafflingly scandal-proof.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Half the population really, really likes people who have zero shame. They worship him because he is the terrible person they want to be.

[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

like he said, shooting someone on fifth Avenue.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He threatens to withhold the iron fist in the rubber glove.

Or meybe he just tells Trump he won't be his friend anymore.

While kompromat may exist, it's also useful to remember the extent to which Trump is a profoundly dysfunctional basket case driven by greed, insecurity and fear. There are plenty of ways of manipulating someone like that besides compromising videos of him raping a trafficked minor.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Also useful to remember the Kremlin has been grooming him for decades. Russian government is essentially mafias-within-mafias. They got more dirt on trump than a dirt factory. There’s no actual way they don’t. Financial, sexual; they got him committing to treason. Everything.

This ballroom is going to be a surveillance office of the FSB, guaranteed.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It Putin waits too long AI video is going to get good enough that no one will believe they are real.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

Why do people still feel a need to excuse Trumps behavior with this stuff? Trump is just the way he is, he doesnt need to be blackmailed to behave like he does. Even if there was any blackmail, Trump wouldnt see any consequences if it got released...

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

The President of the USA is a pedophile