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Approximately 42 million Americans—about one in eight people—who participate in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program stand to go hungry after November 1, when benefits are scheduled to expire.

“Bottom line, the well has run dry,” reads a message explicitly blaming Democrats on the Department of Agriculture’s website.

A coalition of 23 attorneys general and three governors are fighting for the latter. They argue that the USDA not only has the funds to continue feeding Americans via SNAP through the month of November, it also has “both the authority and legal duty” to do so.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 97 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (41 children)
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[–] Affidavit@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

From the actual USDA website (had to use a VPN to access—clearly America doesn't want other countries to witness their shame):

"Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Bottom line, the well has run dry. At this time, there will be no benefits issued November 01. We are approaching an inflection point for Senate Democrats. They can continue to hold out for healthcare for illegal aliens and gender mutilation procedures or reopen the government so mothers, babies, and the most vulnerable among us can receive critical nutrition assistance."

I cannot think of a single developed country that would allow such blatant partisan propaganda to be on an official government website.

How the fuck is this actually permitted?

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How the fuck is this actually permitted?

It's not. Those messages are a blatant violation of a law known as the Hatch Act.

In theory, this is enforced by the office of special counsel, which is an independent federal agency. In practice, Trump fired the head of the OSC back in February, and appointed one of his cabinet officials to the role.

In theory, this was completely unlawful, as the OSC was setup by Congress post Watergate [0] specifically to be independent of the President. Indeed a lower court ruled as such; but was overturned on appeal. The problem is that the Supreme Court has recently embraced a view of near unlimited presidential power, including explicit rulings against the constitutionality of laws preventing the president from firing heads of independent agencies. [1].

The court also ruled that the president has near complete immunity to commit crimes (Trump v US 2024). That ruling gives the president literally complete immunity for "core" acts such as issuing pardons. So, he could pardon everyone involved.

In theory, the recourse here is impeachment. But there isn't much stomach to impeach him again after his prior impeachments failed to remove him from office. Those impeachments being for: withholding military aid to Ukraine because they wouldn't investigate the son of his political opponents; and directing a violent insurrection on January 6 to try and remain in power despite loosing the election.

[0] Where then president Nixon directed a break in of the headquarters of his political opponents.

[1] Although, I will note, the Court has made a point of clarifying that the Federal reserve is fine. Undoubtedly because they care about the amount of money they would loose in the economic carnage of that particular agency loosing independence.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago

Because Trump's party controls all three branches of government.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program

Isn't that distorting facts to the point that it becomes a blatant lie?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Since when has that ever stopped them?

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

It is, yes. It remains to be seen if that matters.

[–] ExFed@programming.dev 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because we voted a criminal into office and let him take control like a king. Laws, like the Hatch Act, are optional.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

The issue isn't the voters. The issue is that the US is not a democracy

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Law is only law insofar as it is enforceable.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The USDA has a contingency fund for these circumstances: when funding from the federal government slows down or, in the worst case, comes to a halt.

Trump is refusing to allow the USDA to dip into that fund which the USDA is legally entitled to use. Trump and his Admin are the sole reason this money isn't being distributed out to Americans.

It's funny because the Cons are lying by framing the shutdown as being caused by Dems. Trump withholding SNAP benefits is a crack in that lie.

Whether ordinary, low-income Americans realize that is yet to be seen. I'm sure the polls on the matter will continue to get worse against Cons.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure the polls on the matter will continue to get worse against Cons.

I highly doubt it. They aren't that smart and they don't consume the same news sources that the rest of us do.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They'll hear nothing but republican lies. Even if they hear something sort of resembling the truth they'll dismiss it.

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Exactly this. They’ve already been given Democrats as the scapegoat, which is much easier for them to swallow than thinking outside of the propaganda they hear every time they look at a screen.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Senator Warren posted this on her social media channels. How convenient of the administration.

The screenshot I provided is a post from X that says:

Donald Trump deleted this from the government website.

Let's be clear: there's funding available to cover SNAP benefits next month. Trump is stopping SNAP benefits because he wants to. He is forcing mommas and babies to go hungry.

She includes a screenshot with text from a gov website that includes:

OMB’s General Counsel provided a letter to USDA on May 23, 2025 stating that there is a bona fide need to obligate benefits for October—the first month of the fiscal year—during or prior to the month of September, thereby guaranteeing that benefit funds are available for program operations even in the event of a government shutdown at the beginning of a fiscal year. In addition, Congressional intent is evident that SNAP’s operations should continue since the program has been provided with multi-year contingency funds that can be used for State Administrative Expenses to ensure that the State can also continue operations during a Federal Government shutdown. These multi-year contingency funds are also available to fund participant benefits in the event that a lapse occurs in the middle of the fiscal year. These activities include, but are not limited to, program policy and operations, financial management, and stakeholder communications.

Yes, I’m aware of Senator Warren’s own issues, but this is important to note.

Edited to include the words for those with readers.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A coalition of 23 attorneys general and three governors are fighting for the latter.

Yes, good. Not sure how all this works, but I hope a majority of these 42 million participate.

They argue that the USDA not only has the funds to continue feeding Americans via SNAP through the month of November, it also has “both the authority and legal duty” to do so.

I mean it's such an obvious hostage situation. Holding the whole country hostage, not just poor people.

explicitly blaming Democrats

And a textbook DARVO. Like the Mafia boss saying "look what you made me do".

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

"Stop hitting yourself America"

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Half the country is going to find out that nothing is going to happen. Thoughts and prayers, how is it October… Nearly November and we are still wondering about project 2025

[–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So what everyone should roll over and accept fascism? Everyone should start guerilla fighting in the streets? Get fucking real

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

It's insane that attorneys general and governors have to prove that the supposedly-richest country on the planet can in fact afford some food for its citizens. How do you look at considerably poorer countries that don't have problems feeding its people and go "Yeah, I'm not sure we can do that."

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

This man is a plague upon the earth

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 days ago

Perhaps this is the motivation they need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

US government, unironically, probably.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Look, the ruling elites say let them eat cake. You like the Palestinians so much? Well now we are going to starve you like Israel does.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Still trying to understand how Kamala and even Biden could possibly be worse. Have a good day america the very one you voted for! Thoughts and prayers everyday!

[–] RonniePickering@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Where can I sign up?

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