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You need a TL/DR.
C2 was changed in October and all your links are from June or July. Several of your points are no longer valid.
I was thinking the same. I read through C-2's first reading version over the summer and really despised it, but there were reports it got shaken up due to criticism. I did write to my MP over it. Probably this weekend I'll re-evaluate it, to see if the worst parts were taken out.
It's be reintroduced as C-12. Still a border bill but without the lawful access provisions (14 and 15). As for C-2 it's both unconstitutional and only the Liberals will vote for it. No way will it pass and if it does, the courts will kill it.
Please share the link. I could only find the first reading text.
Thank you for sharing. Let me look into it and get back to you.
PP revoked his support for C2 so it was changed. Feel free to look at that.
Bill C-2 wants to end your privacy!
Omnibus law is a hydra. He has many heads. Some heads may exist to be sacrificed. Each head may be a terror on its own.
One deadly head of c70 was to remove Canadian secrets from CanPost protection and put them on foreign servers where foreigners can see the secrets.
Consequences include a defunded CanPost that is unlikely to survive this business loss. And foreigners who can see what agents do and what body cameras record.
I think it is still of value to sign the petition against c2 to make our voices heard.
Thanks go out to RodgeGrabTheCat and Rentlar for pointing out the ever-changing landscape of this legislation.
Greenpeace talks about how C-2 has been repackaged into C-2 plus C-12, C-8, and C-9. Many of the problems which people expressed concerns about still remain. C-2 has also not been withdrawn and may continue to remain a threat.
In the same article, Greenpeace also still points us to sign their C-2 petition and so the C-2 petitions are still important.
Greenpeace Petition Link
https://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/act/stop-bill-c-2-defend-our-human-rights-privacy/
https://www.greenpeace.org/canada/en/story/72808/carneys-bills-explained-c-2-c-12-c-8-and-c-9/ October 23, 2025 "Let's break down the biggest issues with Bill C-2 (now broken down into C-2 and C-12), and Bill C-8 and Bill C-9. All three Bills are being considered by the Federal government and pose serious concern to human rights, constitutional rights, and privacy rights."
Bill C-12
"the new Bill C-12 repackages Bill C-2 'leaving intact the measures to block refugee hearings, impose arbitrary retroactive one-year bars, and grant ministers mass immigration status-cancellation powers.' This would allow the government to cancel en masse people's immigration applications and even cancel visas or permanent residence cards of people already in the country."
Bill C-8
"give the Minister powers to break encryption security and install backdoors into Canada’s networks for surveillance purposes. This means that the government could surveil all your online activities from banking to personal communications."
"the bill would authorize warrantless seizure of sensitive private information; and collect and share communications, metadata, locational, and financial data."
Bill C-9
"Bill C-9 criminalizes protest, dissent, free expression, and assembly in a clear violation of charter rights."
"Bill C-9's intimidation and obstruction offences are overly broad, vague, and pose the risk of criminalizing peaceful protests."
Read for yourself and consider sending in your respectfully worded opinions by email correspondence to the Parliamentary Committees linked below.
Bill C-12 Links
https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/45-1/c-12
https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/bill/C-12/first-reading
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/SECU?parl=45&session=1 (no meetings have been scheduled yet)
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/SECU/Contact
Bill C-8 Links
https://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/en/bill/45-1/c-8
https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/bill/c-8/first-reading
https://www.ourcommons.ca/committees/en/SECU/StudyActivity?studyActivityId=13156377
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/SECU/Contact (yes, the same committee as C-12)
Bill C-9 Links
https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/45-1/c-9
https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/bill/C-9/first-reading
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/JUST/StudyActivity?studyActivityId=13154115
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees/en/JUST/Contact
New Petitions
How can we organize new petitions? The C-2 House of Commons petition was put together by a Facebook group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/VictoriaProtests/
I am not on Facebook and the same may be true of many Lemmy users.
If you are one of the users on Facebook, would it be difficult for you to join their group and point them at this thread?
Lemmy has users who will sign a petition. Lemmy probably does not have people who will band together to create petitions since you have to trust another person with your real name and your email address.
Facebook users know each other by name. Facebook users are suitable for banding together to create petitions.
Dual Lemmy-Facebook users can let the rest of us know about new petitions. Lemmy users can act as additional votes on each petition. Lemmy users can also spread news to their contacts outside of Lemmy.
Maybe this time when creating petitions, focus more on the issues and less on who to blame. Some people refused to sign the petition against C-2 because they felt that it was an attack on the party that they voted for. It's supposed to be about the issues. But, people are sensitive to the wording. Let's not lose valuable votes.
At the end of the day when a bad law gets enacted, no one is able to tell the police "Oh, I am sorry, you cannot arrest me because I voted for Party X." You will get laughed at and still go to jail or get kicked out of the country for doing things that are normal to you right now. Focus on the issues because it is the issues that matter for every Canadian.
Petitions are also a great way for youth to get involved in the political process and actually have a vote.
If you can help, please act quickly. C-12 has been sent to committee. C-8 is about to start committee meetings. C-9 has already started being discussed in committee meetings. Some of these laws may get passed before the end of 2025 if people don't collaborate on creating new corresponding petitions.