The fact that this farm has yet to fix any of the issues that caused the need for the cull in the first place demonstrates these people are not responsible enough to own those animals.
this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2025
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What exactly were those issues again? I was under the impression it was simply an abundance of caution to stop the spread of avian flu?
The stamping out policy is a major factor for the cull. The issues on the farm from what I remember were:
- No quarantine zones for sick animals.
- The Ostriches had access to shared resources with numerous wild animals like water sources.
- The people on the farm were not wearing the proper protective gear when handling the animals.
- The animals were not isolated from contact with visitors.
These ostriches have obviously survived their bout of flu, so I certainly hope someone is taking serum samples so we can at least research what immunity they gained to save other avians from flu outbreaks in the future. They may be worth more alive to science now...
It’s not okay that the right has prevented health measures from being enacted. They will continue to obstruct in the future.
No disagreement there. But the time to stop an active flu spread situation has likely long passed on this farm, so I hope some good science can come out of it. (Which would be a bit ironic.)
so I certainly hope someone is taking serum samples so we can at least research what immunity they gained to save other avians from flu outbreaks in the future. They may be worth more alive to science now
There’s no shortage of means to reproduce what happened to these birds in a lab, with much more reliable controls. These birds are worth nothing to science now
Aren't these birds safe now, since they have recovered from the flu? I mean, we don't quarantine people permanently after they recover from the flu because they're not infectious anymore. Insisting they still be culled at this point serves only to set an example that no one should try to skirt health laws simply by delaying (which may have some merit, but seems cruel to me). Still. I don't dispute that they should have been culled originally but the infectious window's "ship has sailed", has it not? So it seems a bit pointless to do now unless they actually still present a threat. If the farm owners delayed the culling by impeding it then penalize them, certainly with fines or jail time. But the animals don't need to suffer at this point do they?
(sorry for the late reply)
Aren’t these birds safe now, since they have recovered from the flu?
No
we don’t quarantine people permanently after they recover from the flu
Correct, and we also don’t have cull orders for humans.
Insisting they still be culled at this point serves only to set an example
Incorrect. This flock is compromised and is putting humans and other birds at risk
the infectious window’s “ship has sailed”, has it not?
No
But the animals don’t need to suffer at this point do they?
Right, they don’t need to suffer. They need to be either absolutely quarantined or destroyed. The owners are making zero effort to quarantine the birds, so it’s on them that the only option is culling.
I don't claim to be a veterinarian, doctor or flu expert, so if what you say is true and they are still a risk to spread avian flu to other animals then I agree, sadly they need to be culled. I was under the impression that the virus would have burned itself out among the flock if it were isolated all this time. But if they weren't being isolated all this time then that's not a valid premise.
The fact that the farmers are still making zero effort to isolate these animals from humans and wildlife is the main reason the animals need to be culled as soon as possible