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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

A couple of years ago it took three tries to install windows without a bunch of junk added. Linux is the way my dudes and dudettes.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Hey all what do you suggest for a school and game dev laptop with Linux for a ~$2k budget? I've been eyeballing framework but keep hearing mixed things

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago

I like Thinkpad T and X series

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[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So here we go. Kiosk machines with random Microsoft account and MFA to private phone numbers. Glad I don’t have to manage that pile of s**t.

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[–] Mio@feddit.nu 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It is insecure to create one account with username and password during the setup process. The password should always come from your password manager. But you would not have access to your password manager during the installation process.

Please remove this step.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You also would not have access to your password manager when logging into your OS, would you?

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[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Windows 11 has had enough red flags for me to switch to tablet, since modern PC's are way over performing to my needs anyway. Windows 11 experience was like a pilot for the HAL A.I. from a Space Odyssey.

[–] r_deckard@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well, if I've got no way to bypass it (when setting up for customers), I'll create an account specifically for this purpose.

And proceed to poison the hell out of any data it sends.

Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?

Don't think so. The setup itself can't complete without internet.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Man it must suck to set up a computer now on restricted networks.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Windows computers that is

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[–] claymore@pawb.social 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Couldn't you just reinstall windows with an older ISO to bypass this? That's what I already do at work anytime I need to setup a new machine, gets rid of the manufacturer supplied ~~programs~~ bloatware. Plus Rufus has an option for triggering the bypass command automatically.

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[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

So happy that I switched to linux. Microsoft has been one of the main forces of enshitification of the world. Fuck em. I cant play a bunch of games with my friends anymore, and I have to learn a few new CAD programs, which is like 10 thousand hours of work that I am flushing down the toilet. Worth it.

[–] wtckt@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.

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[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

IMO, Windows without a Microsoft account misses out on the least features, when compared to macOS without an Apple ID, iOS without an Apple ID, or Android without a Google accout. Sad that Microsoft keeps making it more and more difficult to bypass logging into a Microsoft accout during installation. But I use Linux anyways (btw)

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Android without a Google account is great though

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That is nice, but I need the Google Play Services for push notifications on the messaging app that everyone in my country uses. It's sad, I know. If it weren't for that I wouldn't log in to a Google account on my Android phone either.

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