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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (14 children)

I've always considered myself a libertarian, but I'm coming to realize I need to find another word. I used to be able to explain that assholes were ruining the name, but now the assholes outnumber people like me by too much.

I think the real turning point was when Jo Jorgensen said, "It is not enough to be passively not racist, we must be actively anti-racist," and then she had to walk it back because the libertarian party was so fucking racist. Like, that's not even a political statement. It's a moral one, and it's one I agree with.

Then when the Libertarian Party changed their stance on abortion, I was done with them. I clung to the lowercase L label, but at this point it doesn't seem worth it anymore.

I just think the government should be limited to things that only the government can handle. Policing? Roads? Business regulations? Those are all things that can only be handled by the government. Restrictions on what kind of stove I can buy? Restrictions on what I can put in my body or how I dress or what my kids can read at school? Those are all bullshit.

I guess it helps that I align with Democrats on most of the major issues now, but I still won't consider myself a Democrat.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Conservatives didn't ruin libertarianism. Libertarianism has always been bad.

Restrictions on what kind of stove I can buy?

Stuff like this is a perfect example of the issues with libertarian ideology. They want freedom to continue to destroy the environment.

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[–] Gawdsausage@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Libertarianism is just Conservative Lite. They do t want to look like they are associated with the crazy Ultra-Right but still want to participate.

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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Another massive W for Thought, the chief glory of mankind.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

good to see teller talked some sense into him

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

The vast majority of self identifying Libertarians are actually wealthy fascist bootlickers.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Good for him!

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, good. Because F libertarians.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I haven't always agreed with him politically, but Penn Jillette seems like a good dude.

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Now I would like to meet him.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He's a true man of reason and rationality. I respect Penn for that!

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