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Funny how no flags are ever lowered at half-staff for any school shootings.

Cuz you know, children aren't nearly as important as one MAGA pundit...

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[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 146 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why? Charlie Kirk wasn't anything. He was a political grifter. Oh. Nevermind. Birds of a feather. I get it now.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Even if he never said or did anything, he was a friend of the Trumps - both the elderly orange peel currently staining the White House and his mentally-challenged offspring.

I don't know if you've noticed, but Trump's friends tend to be rather nauseating people.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 88 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Minnesota democrats murdered in their homes: nothing done or said. POS grifter shot while talking about violence: lower the flags, President gives a speech and tweet. America 2025 🫡

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I think we need to start sell flag pole extenders so we can protest this shit.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump has also said he's giving him the presidential medal of freedom

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point the presidential medal of freedom is as important as the Burger King crown.

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[–] EmpatheticTeddyBear@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I will not be lowering my flag in remembrance of the life of an abuser who had helped to cause harm to so many of those that I care about. I will not celebrate his death, but neither will I lose sleep.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I will not be lowering my flag

Is that an ICE SUV I see in your street or just a random car full of masked people cosplaying?

You're supposed to comply citizen!

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is that an ICE SUV I see in your street or just a random car full of masked people cosplaying?

Those two things are the same.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago

No they're not: the cosplayers can't kidnap you and disappear you to a foreign concentration camp.

Can't be ICE, I haven't put a magnetic Mexican flag on my car to act as a designated distraction yet...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

On my to-do list is to get a gigantic flag pole and flag. I so wish I already had one up, just so I could NOT lower it for Kirk.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

I will not celebrate his death

You're a better person than me.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 58 points 4 days ago

Fuck MAGA. Good riddance to every last one of those Nazi white power cultists.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago

So what about the actual politicians that were gunned down a few month ago. Nothing for them? Oh, because they were democrats, and you endorse it, got it...

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lowering flags is now about as significant as being Nobel Prize nominated.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Or getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand how Kirk qualifies for this? He was just a modern version of Rush Limbaugh, going even edgier and on other platforms than radio....oh, right, Limbaugh got the fucking Presidential Medal of Freedom, so of course we should lower flags for a fucking Reich wing trolling edgelord.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He doesn't. But Trump is an enormous piece of shit.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

It's scary to think about action having consequences, if you've been a POS.

So he has to self-sooth, vilify and project.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The NY Times comments about his death are pretty disgusting. Lots of enlightened centrist liberals talking about how inspiring and respectful Kirk was and what a loss it is.

That said, there were only about 100 comments before they locked it. Given the comment counts on big stories like this, I imagine there must've been about 10 or 20 times as many comments that they declined to publish.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, I just saw a headline from The Economist that made me want to gag: "Charlie Kirk challenged liberals until the day he was murdered"

I mean, what kind of bullshit hagiography is that announcing? I started to read it, and it gets even worse right from the very jump.

Charlie Kirk was an awful douchebag and these paeans being said/written about him already are nauseating and he only just was killed. I suspect it's only going to get worse.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

You should see the glazing Fox gave him. It was wild to read.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

This is the same asshole who threw a hissy fit that flags were at half staff for Carter, a far more deserving person than Trump or Kirk could ever dream of being.

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

But of course not for the kids that got shot today.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I didn’t like the guy but Trump is going to 100% use this to tighten his grip on America.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago

He literally sent the national guard into Chicago this week for no reason.

Why does it matter if Charlie died?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

He was going to either way. The faster he does it the more people that currently follow him but have a bit of waivering faith will realize his lies. Everyone has a different threshold, but the faster he tightens the grip the faster some will realize the reality.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah, probably.

He already tried to do it once when this DOGE kid Corristine supposedly got his assed kicked. But he didn't follow through because that was just a kid getting his ass kicked (if it even happened for real).

But that's a bona fide death the orange utan can definitely exploit. He's not gonna let a good MAGA death go to waste for sure.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago

Does it matter? He already was Maybe they should know fear

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

🌍 🧑‍🚀 🔫 🧑‍🚀

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like the new "metals of honor", lowering the flag is now meaningless. Remember the orange rapist/felon ordered the flags at full mast after President Carter's death for his inauguration.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Carter is 100x the President that Taco is. I sure hope that when Taco kicks the bucket, lots of people refuse to lower their flags....he is a total dirtbag and petty AF.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Kirk was a complete scumbag, but flags definitely flew at half-staff for school shootings in the past.

Trump ordered flags at half-staff for Minneapolis

Biden ordered flags at half-staff for Allen, Texas

Also, since this took place at a university, this technically counts as a school shooting. A feverent right-wing agitator dies at a school shooting. Ironic.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There were like 80 school shootings in the states last year. The thing should be at half mast until that problem is solved by this logic.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it should be upside down as a symbol of distress until the 'regime' changes.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think most people already know that flags at half staff is worthless virtue-signalling

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I never raise a flag but suddenly want the biggest one at the top of the tallest pole

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

Does anyone know how to put a flag at 1.5 staff?

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

one of the only times where it’s acceptable to fly an american flag high and proud

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Honestly, I’m glad this happened. Of course I can’t be sure if it’s a good thing - for all we know it could speed up the birth of a tyranny, or WW3 - but something beyond waiting for the next election needs to happen. Kinda typical USA that that something involves guns though.

At some point the constant abuse needs to be met with - well, something.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

If the USA lowered flags to half mast every time there was a school shooting you may as well just cut off the top half of the flag pole. It'll never get used.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America just got its Horst Wessel.

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago

Perfect timing if your aim is to get America to talk about guns and distract from the Republicans voting against the release of the Epstein files. So weird how the Donvict was the first to report on the new martyr's death.

we got this flag display outside town that lowers to half staff for important shit. they ain't lowering for kirk.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago

brb raising any flags I see higher.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Maybe a posthumous Medal of Feces

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Air Force 2 went and picked up his body. They already had a response ready immediately after his death. A long range sniper shot with no one found immediately. At this point it is looking like this was an assassination by the current administration.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

Once children leave the womb, they are target practice and slave laborers. Republicans have never valued life. They are part of a violent hateful cult which is based in a naive & non-scientific culture that is 2000 years old.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

It’s just rhetoric and grandstanding designed to feed his army of anal leeches that mindlessly feed on his bloated science-defying animated carcass.

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