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[โ€“] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just FYI:

Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co. Ltd ๆต™ๆฑŸๅ‰ๅˆฉๆŽง่‚ก้›†ๅ›ข

is not really European. Volvo has been sold to China in 2010.

[โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People look at me weird when I say Volvo is Chinese but I keep saying it.

[โ€“] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Smart is also Chinese and nobody wants to believe it when I tell them.

[โ€“] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Huh, learn something every day, I thought smart were Mercedes? Or am I 15 years out of date?

[โ€“] XM34@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Both of you would be correct. Smart is coowned 50/50 by Mercedes-Benz and a Chinese Company.

[โ€“] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How are electric cars a "new chapter in sustainable mobility"? They will still be an incredibly inefficient method of transport compared to all the alternatives.

[โ€“] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What alternatives? They are cheaper and more sustainable than any other automobile. They are still worse than walking, biking, and taking public transit - but those are not always options. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. (which isn't to say don't work for better public transit)

[โ€“] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You ask for alternatives and then provide then? Then you say that when there are no better options then EV's are the best option which doesn't put them in a great light at all.

I think mining the rare metals needed to manufacture lithium batteries to create luxury SUVs and Sedans that'll transport one person at a time is a gross waste of the earth's resources and it's bullshit to call that sustainable.

[โ€“] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For 1% of people you're right, they'll have the desire and fortitude to compromise their lifestyle for not owning their own vehicle.

For the other 99%, moving them away from buying an ice car to an EV car has to be considered an improvement.

I gave up my car for an electric moped, I don't regret it but do suffer in the winter. I'd likely say most people would consider me someone who "needs" a car but I'm making do

[โ€“] 13igTyme@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

73.5% of unsourced statistics are made up.

[โ€“] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That doesn't really matter, since 8 out of 5 people suffer from dyscalculia.

[โ€“] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Hah, fair point. Just my opinion, a high percentage of people in this world will not inconvenience themselves by transitioning to a less than ideal transport solution for the the good of the planet.

Hope that's more suitably vague

[โ€“] ThoGot@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Diesel cars?

[โ€“] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

All the alternatives? In terms of energy percentage used by the drivetrain? Who told you that? You sound like an O&G troll.

Also, the link leads to Volvo itself, so it's a marketing twist, and it doesn't refer to "electric cars", but only to the ES90.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Itโ€™s also important to note that Volvo is based in Sweden ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช with an ev penetration rate of 60%

[โ€“] krimson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They only make some engines there afaik.

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