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[โ€“] artiman@piefed.social 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There aren't any European companies that make things such as CPUs and GPUs, so the website wouldn't be very good

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

However there are Good Ram, Intenso, Emtec that make ram and storage.

For the peripherals there are Cherry, Roccat, Sharkoon, BeQuiet.

For routers there are Fritzbox, Mikrotik, Lancom, Turris Omnia, Teltonika, Vantiva.

We have to make the market conditions so that European companies can rise and that people can be more informed with their choices. Itโ€™s better to buy 20% European than 100% Chinese.

[โ€“] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fractal cases I believe are european design but not made here.

[โ€“] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

There is phanteks as well. Both make phenomenal cases

[โ€“] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Noctua are from austria and do coolers and fans

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I will add them to my list!

[โ€“] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

What about Endgame Gear? I believe they are based in Germany.

[โ€“] malwieder@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It wouldn't have a lot of selection, would it?

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thatโ€™s why you have to build up the pressure to buy european.

[โ€“] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please tell us which European CPU and GPU you would use for your next build

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean buying european pc parts can support these companies to also expand into CPUs and GPUs. You can also talk your representatives for the need of computer manufacturing. You can buy Taiwanese and South Korean parts before Chinese.

[โ€“] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

support these companies to expand into CPUs and GPUs.

So uhโ€ฆ itโ€™s clear you have no idea how mind-bendingly complex and expensive spinning up a bleeding edge chip fab is - let alone, at scale. Iโ€™m not talking about โ€œconvince Intel or AMD to make a euro fabโ€. Iโ€™m talking about โ€œX-FAB and NXP announce chips to compete with Intel and AMDโ€.

This is not a simple thing to do. China is trying to do it, with some measure of success (Zhaoxin) - but itโ€™s important to keep in mind that China is also very good at stealing IP and reverse engineering stuff in general, and particularly this field, as it has strategic importance for them, and they really donโ€™t give a shit about IP laws outside of China. And the effort took a solid decade to get something that was performance-comparable to consumer-grade western x86 chips that were released a decade ago. Thatโ€™s an astounding and incredible amount of advanced industrial bootstrapping, but at the same time, itโ€™s not competitive in the context of advanced ICs. And moreover, Iโ€™m quite certain that any Euro company that went this route would not be taking the IP theft/RE route, because theyโ€™d probably not be keen on getting sued into oblivion by Intel and AMD.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

I never said it can be done overnight.

[โ€“] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

On github there's a repo with scraped pcpartpicker data. A good enough dev could build that website pretty easily.

https://github.com/docyx/pc-part-dataset

if you search for pcpartpicker on GH it will show you a bunch more cool stuff, like scripts to scrape it yourself, unofficial APIs, and more.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[โ€“] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Done, I edited my original post.