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Anyone else wishes there was a website that allowed you to pick European parts for your PC? (piefed.ca)
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[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thatโ€™s why you have to build up the pressure to buy european.

[โ€“] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please tell us which European CPU and GPU you would use for your next build

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean buying european pc parts can support these companies to also expand into CPUs and GPUs. You can also talk your representatives for the need of computer manufacturing. You can buy Taiwanese and South Korean parts before Chinese.

[โ€“] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

support these companies to expand into CPUs and GPUs.

So uhโ€ฆ itโ€™s clear you have no idea how mind-bendingly complex and expensive spinning up a bleeding edge chip fab is - let alone, at scale. Iโ€™m not talking about โ€œconvince Intel or AMD to make a euro fabโ€. Iโ€™m talking about โ€œX-FAB and NXP announce chips to compete with Intel and AMDโ€.

This is not a simple thing to do. China is trying to do it, with some measure of success (Zhaoxin) - but itโ€™s important to keep in mind that China is also very good at stealing IP and reverse engineering stuff in general, and particularly this field, as it has strategic importance for them, and they really donโ€™t give a shit about IP laws outside of China. And the effort took a solid decade to get something that was performance-comparable to consumer-grade western x86 chips that were released a decade ago. Thatโ€™s an astounding and incredible amount of advanced industrial bootstrapping, but at the same time, itโ€™s not competitive in the context of advanced ICs. And moreover, Iโ€™m quite certain that any Euro company that went this route would not be taking the IP theft/RE route, because theyโ€™d probably not be keen on getting sued into oblivion by Intel and AMD.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

I never said it can be done overnight.